embedded fonts & kindles

lumpynose · 05-23-2019, 03:00 PM

I've been experimenting with a test EPUB and using embedded fonts and I have to say that it really tickles my fancy. I don't follow the publishing industry but I'm wondering if authors are vexed that the Kindle format doesn't support embedded fonts and clamoring for it.

And then there's this review of e-readers on Ars Technica where the author never mentions the advantages of epub versus the kindle format.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=320288

jhowell · 05-23-2019, 03:08 PM

Fonts can be embedded in Kindle books.

DiapDealer · 05-23-2019, 03:14 PM

Yup. Since late 2011. No clamoring necessary.

lumpynose · 05-23-2019, 03:17 PM

Ah, ok; I'm merely displaying my ignorance then. But I still think EPUB is better.

DiapDealer · 05-23-2019, 03:25 PM

And you're free to think one or the other needs to be.

lumpynose · 05-23-2019, 04:05 PM

Well, open standards typically are better. On a similar note, I'm not anti-DRM, just anti vendor specific DRM; the usual lock-in crap. If Amazon, Kobo, B&N, etc. had some open standard DRM so that we could buy EPUB books from any of them and use on any of their devices that would much nicer.

Sirtel · 05-23-2019, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lumpynose

Well, open standards typically are better. On a similar note, I'm not anti-DRM, just anti vendor specific DRM; the usual lock-in crap. If Amazon, Kobo, B&N, etc. had some open standard DRM so that we could buy EPUB books from any of them and use on any of their devices that would much nicer.

Well, not for me. I want to be able to edit my books. Can't do that with DRM, vendor-specific or not. Watermarking would be fine with me.

lumpynose · 05-23-2019, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirtel

Well, not for me. I want to be able to edit my books. Can't do that with DRM, vendor-specific or not. Watermarking would be fine with me.

Good point; I'd forgotten about that. Although not being able to edit them wouldn't be the end of the world for me.

DiapDealer · 05-23-2019, 04:35 PM

I buy 'em, read 'em and move on. Makes no difference to me if it's proprietary/open, or DRM/DRM-free. I'm strictly in it for the reading (usually once): reading whatever I want, where ever I want, on whatever I have to hand, at whatever font-size I want, when I want. The other stuff has become like that noise all the adults make on Charlie Brown to me.

lumpynose · 05-23-2019, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I buy 'em, read 'em and move on. Makes no difference to me if it's proprietary/open, or DRM/DRM-free. I'm strictly in it for the reading (usually once): reading whatever I want, where ever I want, on whatever I have to hand, at whatever font-size I want, when I want. The other stuff has become like that noise all the adults make on Charlie Brown to me.

Yep. When I start reading a book I didn't fiddle with it annoys me at first but then I settle down and keep reading, and then wonder why I let it bother me in the first place. And of course I never worry about that stuff in a printed book. So silly.

Sirtel · 05-23-2019, 04:43 PM

People are different.

I like to re-read, I also re-watch the movies I've liked. I like to read slowly, so I can enjoy the journey. Formatting is an important part of my ability to enjoy it.

You're possibly more goal-oriented.

Sirtel · 05-23-2019, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lumpynose

Yep. When I start reading a book I didn't fiddle with it annoys me at first but then I settle down and keep reading, and then wonder why I let it bother me in the first place. And of course I never worry about that stuff in a printed book. So silly.

I'm a total opposite. The more I read, the more it starts to bother me, until I'm totally unable to concentrate.

As to print books, they were much better formatted than most ebooks. They didn't have ragged right, spaces between paragraphs or huge text-indents (my three pet peeves in ebooks).

lumpynose · 05-23-2019, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirtel

You're possibly more goal-oriented.

Maybe, but what I want is a good story. If it's a good story that I'm enjoying all the rest of that stuff just fades into the background.

DiapDealer · 05-23-2019, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirtel

You're possibly more goal-oriented.

Nope. I read terribly slow, and I have no goals.

But you're right: people are different. And that's fine by me. I was merely addressing how formats and DRM have become invisible to me. Ebooks are just books for me again. Books I can start reading immediately after discovering them.

05-23-2019, 03:00 PM	#1
lumpynose Wizard Posts: 1,086 Karma: 6719822 Join Date: Jul 2012 Device: Palm Pilot M105	embedded fonts & kindles I've been experimenting with a test EPUB and using embedded fonts and I have to say that it really tickles my fancy. I don't follow the publishing industry but I'm wondering if authors are vexed that the Kindle format doesn't support embedded fonts and clamoring for it. And then there's this review of e-readers on Ars Technica where the author never mentions the advantages of epub versus the kindle format. https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=320288

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05-23-2019, 03:08 PM	#2
jhowell Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,496 Karma: 84420419 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tampa Bay, Florida Device: Kindles	Fonts can be embedded in Kindle books.

05-23-2019, 03:14 PM	#3
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,549 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Yup. Since late 2011. No clamoring necessary.

05-23-2019, 03:17 PM	#4
lumpynose Wizard Posts: 1,086 Karma: 6719822 Join Date: Jul 2012 Device: Palm Pilot M105	Ah, ok; I'm merely displaying my ignorance then. But I still think EPUB is better.

05-23-2019, 03:25 PM	#5
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,549 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	And you're free to think one or the other needs to be.

05-23-2019, 04:05 PM	#6
lumpynose Wizard Posts: 1,086 Karma: 6719822 Join Date: Jul 2012 Device: Palm Pilot M105	Well, open standards typically are better. On a similar note, I'm not anti-DRM, just anti vendor specific DRM; the usual lock-in crap. If Amazon, Kobo, B&N, etc. had some open standard DRM so that we could buy EPUB books from any of them and use on any of their devices that would much nicer.

05-23-2019, 04:35 PM	#9
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,549 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I buy 'em, read 'em and move on. Makes no difference to me if it's proprietary/open, or DRM/DRM-free. I'm strictly in it for the reading (usually once): reading whatever I want, where ever I want, on whatever I have to hand, at whatever font-size I want, when I want. The other stuff has become like that noise all the adults make on Charlie Brown to me.

05-23-2019, 04:43 PM	#11
Sirtel Grand Sorcerer Posts: 10,129 Karma: 224760044 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2	People are different. I like to re-read, I also re-watch the movies I've liked. I like to read slowly, so I can enjoy the journey. Formatting is an important part of my ability to enjoy it. You're possibly more goal-oriented.