Amazon outperforms bricks-and-mortar competitors - Page 2

slayda · 01-30-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

The term "brick and mortar" store generally means a store that has one or more physical stores that you can actually walk in to to look at their goods. So, basically your category 1.

Although, the fact that a brick and mortar retailer also has an online presence doesn't preclude them from being called a brick and mortar store. It's more the absence of a physical store (online only) that puts a retailer out of the brick and mortar category.

Amazon is way out performing brick and mortar stores in this household. Even if I can walk into a store in town (where the selection is horribly limited by the way), very often they will be out of stock on what I want and the price will be high.

Often, the price is lower at Amazon and the thing might qualify for free shipping. Meaning I don't even have to bear the cost of driving in to town to shop for something that (1) they don't carry or (2) don't have in stock.

There are a lot of us people out here in the sticks who are starting to figure this out.

I can see your point. I was just trying to say it's comparing apples and oranges to compare Amazon (even if only the book portion but even more so with all their other stuff) to companies like Fictionwise and Barnes and Noble. Such a comparison (all of Amazon's stuff) would be like saying there's more stuff in the world than in my back yard. While true, it is totally meaningless.

Shaggy · 01-30-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

I had a horrible (horrible) experience with Buy.com not long after they started up.

You're not alone. I was thinking of buying something from them a while ago and started looking into them. They get a lot of really bad reviews.

RickyMaveety · 01-30-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by slayda

I can see your point. I was just trying to say it's comparing apples and oranges to compare Amazon (even if only the book portion but even more so with all their other stuff) to companies like Fictionwise and Barnes and Noble. Such a comparison (all of Amazon's stuff) would be like saying there's more stuff in the world than in my back yard. While true, it is totally meaningless.

Agreed. The comparison is flawed at best. But the people who get paid to analyze and write articles on these sorts of comparisons keep churning them out anyway, flawed or not.

The trick is to see the flaw in the analysis and then read the piece with the flaws in the forefront of your mind. I spend a lot of time picking apart legal reasoning that is flawed, and as a result, I've become what is essentially a professional picker of nits. About everything.

Sydney's Mom · 01-30-2009, 04:33 PM

Well, I am not out in the sticks, and I still love Amazon for the selection. Even though you can find almost anything in Chicago, you still have to deal with out-of-stock, traffic, rude sales people . . . Give me Amazon for my hard goods and ebooks, and Mobile Read for my tech help. Mobile Read even goes 24 hours a day - Amazon won't ship in the middle of the night! I would certainly pay for the help I have gotten here. Is someone missing a marketing opportunity?

RickyMaveety · 01-30-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sydney's Mom

Well, I am not out in the sticks, and I still love Amazon for the selection. Even though you can find almost anything in Chicago, you still have to deal with out-of-stock, traffic, rude sales people . . . Give me Amazon for my hard goods and ebooks, and Mobile Read for my tech help. Mobile Read even goes 24 hours a day - Amazon won't ship in the middle of the night! I would certainly pay for the help I have gotten here. Is someone missing a marketing opportunity?

Ah, but they will Whispernet in the middle of the night. That's something at least.

I would probably buy groceries from Amazon if I could. I'm sure the selection and quality would be better than the local HEB (where they don't even stock something if you beg them to order it special for you.

pilotbob · 01-30-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

Ah, but they will Whispernet in the middle of the night. That's something at least.

They used to NowNow ThenThen but NowNow they DontDont.

BOb

zelda_pinwheel · 01-30-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

They used to NowNow ThenThen but NowNow they DontDont.

BOb

HaHa !

RickyMaveety · 01-30-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

They used to NowNow ThenThen but NowNow they DontDont.

BOb

pfffft!

Penforhire · 01-30-2009, 06:10 PM

Good point about groceries. Our household does use on-line grocery delivery service from time to time. We used most of the defunct ones and now we're down to Vons.com.

Sydney's Mom · 01-31-2009, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

They used to NowNow ThenThen but NowNow they DontDont.

BOb

Bob, you should be ashamed of yourself

Sydney's Mom · 01-31-2009, 12:41 AM

I LOVED Webvan. At the end, they were giving me all sorts of free stuff, just for being a regular. Tried peapod, but not the same.

This is an unserved market. For example, right now I would really like some Pepridge Farm cookies.

coolcat1901 · 02-01-2009, 12:41 PM

I agree, Amazon Prime is key. You can order a $5 dvd and has it shipped with 2 day shipping... not sure how they make any profit unless people pay $80 and never use it. I know I've used a heck of a lot more then $80 worth of shipping!

Alisa · 02-01-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by coolcat1901

I agree, Amazon Prime is key. You can order a $5 dvd and has it shipped with 2 day shipping... not sure how they make any profit unless people pay $80 and never use it. I know I've used a heck of a lot more then $80 worth of shipping!

Prime pays for itself just with my Christmas shopping. Now if they could cut me a deal on the wrapping, I'd be thrilled.

pilotbob · 02-01-2009, 03:43 PM

Some one on this thread is hosting either their avatar or a graphic in their sig from pixel.quantserve.com. It is taking a very long time to load and keeps pausing the page. Can you please upload your avatar or graphic directly to the mobilread web site which seems to have much better traffic/bandwidth.

Also the image must be set to expire the header immediately or else my browser would cache it. Something needs to be fixed.

THanks,
BOb

igorsk · 02-01-2009, 07:18 PM

It's a web tracker by Quantcast:

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pilotbob Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,832 Karma: 11844413 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa, FL USA Device: Kindle Touch	Some one on this thread is hosting either their avatar or a graphic in their sig from pixel.quantserve.com. It is taking a very long time to load and keeps pausing the page. Can you please upload your avatar or graphic directly to the mobilread web site which seems to have much better traffic/bandwidth. Also the image must be set to expire the header immediately or else my browser would cache it. Something needs to be fixed. THanks, BOb Last edited by pilotbob; 02-01-2009 at 03:45 PM.

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Sydney's Mom Wizard Posts: 2,895 Karma: 6995721 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Idaho, on the side of a mountain Device: Kindle Oasis, Fire 3d Gen and 5th Gen and Samsung Tab S	Well, I am not out in the sticks, and I still love Amazon for the selection. Even though you can find almost anything in Chicago, you still have to deal with out-of-stock, traffic, rude sales people . . . Give me Amazon for my hard goods and ebooks, and Mobile Read for my tech help. Mobile Read even goes 24 hours a day - Amazon won't ship in the middle of the night! I would certainly pay for the help I have gotten here. Is someone missing a marketing opportunity?

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Penforhire Wizard Posts: 2,230 Karma: 7145404 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Device: Kindle Voyage & iPhone 7+	Good point about groceries. Our household does use on-line grocery delivery service from time to time. We used most of the defunct ones and now we're down to Vons.com.

01-31-2009, 12:41 AM	#26
Sydney's Mom Wizard Posts: 2,895 Karma: 6995721 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Idaho, on the side of a mountain Device: Kindle Oasis, Fire 3d Gen and 5th Gen and Samsung Tab S	I LOVED Webvan. At the end, they were giving me all sorts of free stuff, just for being a regular. Tried peapod, but not the same. This is an unserved market. For example, right now I would really like some Pepridge Farm cookies.

02-01-2009, 12:41 PM	#27
coolcat1901 Member Posts: 16 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: kindle	I agree, Amazon Prime is key. You can order a $5 dvd and has it shipped with 2 day shipping... not sure how they make any profit unless people pay $80 and never use it. I know I've used a heck of a lot more then $80 worth of shipping!

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