STAReBOOK vs. Iliad speed video! - Page 3

scotty1024 · 01-24-2007, 06:57 PM

Well the buzz kill for me on the device is the lack of a suspend/resume mode.

The only thing prying the Sony Reader out of my fingers is something that matches the Sony for suspend/resume speed.

CommanderROR · 01-24-2007, 07:07 PM

@Scotty1024

The STAReBOOK should be able to do suspend/resume no problem. I assume it does something like that between pageturns anyway becaseu I just leave it on at all times and the battery is still not empty which would sugggest that the powersaving must use something along those lines.
Maybe they can still improve on that and give the user an option to blank the screen after a set period of time and go into deep-sleep without making it neccessary to reboot.

If you would like ot offer your help developing a PDF viewer for the STAReBOOK you might want to contact Staretek directly. They are a lot more responsive than iRex I think, but I'm not sure how they think about releasing their sources and stuff...but since their device runs on Linux it should be easy to adapt one or several of your apps for the device. Why don't you just contact them? I'll PM my contact addresses to you.

yunhaid · 01-24-2007, 10:03 PM

i have contacted the starebook company , and asked them to open their sdk for i want to develop the pdf viewer on starebook, but they reject me, so i have to develop the pdftojpg program on pc.it's why the pdftojpg born reason.
maybe you can persuade them to open their SDK.

CommanderROR · 01-25-2007, 03:08 AM

@Scotty1024

I talked to the Staretek guys and they said they would like to evaluatel your PDf viewer and would "warmly welcome you to contact them".

So feel free to do so, I've sent their contact info your way.

If you decide to join in and help them along with additional viewers, we might just have the ideal device here for those of us who sre looking for a "reading only" solution.

kacir · 01-25-2007, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by yunhaid

... maybe you can persuade them to open their SDK.

We might be unable to persuade them to publish their SDK, but as far as I understand they have build their system on Linux. So they have to publish full source codes for all software under GPL licence they are distributing. Including their patches and all information necessary for building the SW. And at least the Linux kernel they use is under GPL. I also think they use lots of other GNU utilities. Like busybox, and many other esential pieces of SW.

They might have developed some programs from the scratch - like the program used for displaying the text. I do not think that a GNU utility could make line wrapping in .sdk files in such a stupid way ;-)

When you purchase the STAReBOOK reader you can demand the source for GPL-ed software on their device. And they have to provide the source to you. They might ask for a reasonable handling fee (cost of media, burning itself, postage, ...) but they can't ask the money for the code itself. And once you have the source, You can do anything with it - according the GPL.

Alexander Turcic · 01-25-2007, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CommanderROR

The reason for wrapping the file in a RAr archive was that mobileread.com does not allow posting of .avi attachments.

Sorry about that. It does now!

TadW · 01-25-2007, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kacir

When you purchase the STAReBOOK reader you can demand the source for GPL-ed software on their device. And they have to provide the source to you. They might ask for a reasonable handling fee (cost of media, burning itself, postage, ...) but they can't ask the money for the code itself. And once you have the source, You can do anything with it - according the GPL.

They wouldn't be the first company to ignore our demands to publish the Linux sources.

Even Sony, who released the sources, didn't take GPL serious, or they would have made it possible for us to recompile and reflash the firmware.

CommanderROR · 01-25-2007, 06:47 AM

So far I haven't got a reply on the source-code question, but they seem to at least be considering it since I did not get an "ignore" or a "no" but received a reply to my other question (concerning Scotty) and a "I will reply to your other questions in another mail".

So maybe there is hope that this will go slightly better than the iRex deal did...:-)
I hope Scotty will contact them and they can get some kind of deal going so that we get more than .stk files on the device.

I must really say again that the device works great, something I had not really expected, and the only thing holding it back right now is the lack of a proper file-format (be that improved .stk or pdf, rtf and others)

Ivan · 01-25-2007, 07:41 AM

Thanks commander. I would agree: I brought the derevice in HOng KOng and have been used for a week. So far, I would say I like this dervice for "reading only" due to the "long lasting" power (compare with my ilad) but I would love to have pdf or htlm format as well!!! Of course, I like my ilad as well for other functions but I won't use it for reading during my trip!

Rosethorn1403 · 06-13-2008, 03:22 AM

hmmm

Having discovered this thread, I nearly jumped for joy at the idea of my perfect ereader, however the format problem kills it for me, i am wondering how its going to compare to the elusive upcoming astaks?

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01-24-2007, 06:57 PM	#31
scotty1024 Banned Posts: 1,300 Karma: 1479 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Peoples Republic of Washington Device: Reader / iPhone / Librie / Kindle	Well the buzz kill for me on the device is the lack of a suspend/resume mode. The only thing prying the Sony Reader out of my fingers is something that matches the Sony for suspend/resume speed.

01-24-2007, 07:07 PM	#32
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	@Scotty1024 The STAReBOOK should be able to do suspend/resume no problem. I assume it does something like that between pageturns anyway becaseu I just leave it on at all times and the battery is still not empty which would sugggest that the powersaving must use something along those lines. Maybe they can still improve on that and give the user an option to blank the screen after a set period of time and go into deep-sleep without making it neccessary to reboot. If you would like ot offer your help developing a PDF viewer for the STAReBOOK you might want to contact Staretek directly. They are a lot more responsive than iRex I think, but I'm not sure how they think about releasing their sources and stuff...but since their device runs on Linux it should be easy to adapt one or several of your apps for the device. Why don't you just contact them? I'll PM my contact addresses to you.

01-24-2007, 10:03 PM	#33
yunhaid Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 147 Join Date: Jan 2007	i have contacted the starebook company , and asked them to open their sdk for i want to develop the pdf viewer on starebook, but they reject me, so i have to develop the pdftojpg program on pc.it's why the pdftojpg born reason. maybe you can persuade them to open their SDK.

01-25-2007, 03:08 AM	#34
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	@Scotty1024 I talked to the Staretek guys and they said they would like to evaluatel your PDf viewer and would "warmly welcome you to contact them". So feel free to do so, I've sent their contact info your way. If you decide to join in and help them along with additional viewers, we might just have the ideal device here for those of us who sre looking for a "reading only" solution.

01-25-2007, 06:47 AM	#38
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	So far I haven't got a reply on the source-code question, but they seem to at least be considering it since I did not get an "ignore" or a "no" but received a reply to my other question (concerning Scotty) and a "I will reply to your other questions in another mail". So maybe there is hope that this will go slightly better than the iRex deal did...:-) I hope Scotty will contact them and they can get some kind of deal going so that we get more than .stk files on the device. I must really say again that the device works great, something I had not really expected, and the only thing holding it back right now is the lack of a proper file-format (be that improved .stk or pdf, rtf and others)

01-25-2007, 07:41 AM	#39
Ivan Connoisseur Posts: 51 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2006	Thanks commander. I would agree: I brought the derevice in HOng KOng and have been used for a week. So far, I would say I like this dervice for "reading only" due to the "long lasting" power (compare with my ilad) but I would love to have pdf or htlm format as well!!! Of course, I like my ilad as well for other functions but I won't use it for reading during my trip!

06-13-2008, 03:22 AM	#40
Rosethorn1403 Member Posts: 11 Karma: 440 Join Date: Jun 2008 Device: none	hmmm Having discovered this thread, I nearly jumped for joy at the idea of my perfect ereader, however the format problem kills it for me, i am wondering how its going to compare to the elusive upcoming astaks?