Uneven Text on Paperwhite

xtine · 01-26-2013, 05:24 AM

I've noticed that whenever I have to use the dictionary or click something on the menu (like adjusting screen brightness), the text becomes uneven (some parts darker, some parts lighter) when I return to my book.

To demonstrate, here's a picture of my screen with the brightness adjustment menu over the text of my book:

When I exit the screen adjustment menu, notice how the text enclosed in the red box is bolder than the text outside it -- coincidentally the part where the brightness adjustment menu used to be.

Same image, without the red box:

And after refreshing the page (turning one page back, then forward again), everything is even again:

This is just a minor annoyance and quickly resolved with a screen refresh, but I just wonder if this is normal with all PW's? I have screen refresh set to "on" by the way.

HarryT · 01-26-2013, 06:38 AM

It's caused by the fact that there's no full screen refresh after the dictionary definition disappears. It's entirely normal.

Snorkledorf · 01-26-2013, 07:51 AM

Yeah mine does that too.

DuckieTigger · 01-26-2013, 08:30 AM

When I notice that, I just go back a page and forward one to get a fresh page (my refresh is on every page). Just wish there was an option to full refresh after closing menu.

Update: Just noticed on 5.3.3 it does full refresh after dictionary or menu or after opening menu, even if page refresh is turned off. Maybe updating might help?

NullNix · 01-26-2013, 08:59 AM

This is perfectly normal e-ink stuff. I saw exactly the same thing on my K4 at times (generally when using the web browser, since the K4 makes less use of overlays in its reading application).

The full refresh on closing the menu is also old stuff, there since at least the K3.

xtine · 01-26-2013, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

When I notice that, I just go back a page and forward one to get a fresh page (my refresh is on every page). Just wish there was an option to full refresh after closing menu.

Update: Just noticed on 5.3.3 it does full refresh after dictionary or menu or after opening menu, even if page refresh is turned off. Maybe updating might help?

I'm already on 5.3.3 but it still doesn't refresh after dictionary/menu.

Thanks, everyone. Like I said, it's just a minor annoyance. Glad to hear it's normal though

Blossom · 01-26-2013, 03:44 PM

I don't have this problem but I do have my PW set to refresh every page.

xtine · 01-26-2013, 08:14 PM

Thanks, Blossom. I just thought it was weird since I had a Touch before this and I never noticed it before.

Julius Caesar · 01-26-2013, 08:44 PM

There is a similar discussion about this issue at Amazon board

http://www.amazon.com/forum/kindle?_...Tx937PQMPBDFRB

BakaTensai · 01-26-2013, 09:03 PM

Same issue here. It is not too bad IMO, but I do seem to have issues with the screen in some other ways. For example, the thinner fonts (Baskerville, Palantino) don't display well. They look very washed out and faint.

Blossom · 01-26-2013, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BakaTensai

Same issue here. It is not too bad IMO, but I do seem to have issues with the screen in some other ways. For example, the thinner fonts (Baskerville, Palantino) don't display well. They look very washed out and faint.

That's because they need more weight. I agree they render really bad on the Kindle.

DuckieTigger · 01-27-2013, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blossom

That's because they need more weight. I agree they render really bad on the Kindle.

I think that is a matter of taste. Render wise they all look good. I have switched back to Caecilia Condensed for a while and don't miss the heavier weight of the fonts I tried before. Even at night it is still easy to read. For me that is, for you it might not work. Choice is good - sometimes I will go to a san-serif font for a while.

xtine · 01-27-2013, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julius Caesar

There is a similar discussion about this issue at Amazon board

http://www.amazon.com/forum/kindle?_...Tx937PQMPBDFRB

Thank you, I'll go check it out

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

I think that is a matter of taste. Render wise they all look good. I have switched back to Caecilia Condensed for a while and don't miss the heavier weight of the fonts I tried before. Even at night it is still easy to read. For me that is, for you it might not work. Choice is good - sometimes I will go to a san-serif font for a while.

I agree. Palatino is still my font of choice despite the other fonts made available to me because of USE_ALT_FONTS. It might be just me but Palatino makes my Kindle seem more like a real book

JLeighs · 01-29-2013, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtine

I agree. Palatino is still my font of choice despite the other fonts made available to me because of USE_ALT_FONTS. It might be just me but Palatino makes my Kindle seem more like a real book

I use the Palatino as well. Right away I was drawn to it. It is a bit light, but I find that I'm very comfortable reading with it. I was going to do the USE_ALT_FONTS (and I may do it down the road), but I know what would end up happening. I'd try to load 3,000 fonts and then I'd spend the next 2 years figuring out which one I like best. Then I'd eventually become overwhelmed with the strain of being undecided and having too many options, and I'd go back to Palatino.

Blossom · 01-29-2013, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLeighs

I use the Palatino as well. Right away I was drawn to it. It is a bit light, but I find that I'm very comfortable reading with it. I was going to do the USE_ALT_FONTS (and I may do it down the road), but I know what would end up happening. I'd try to load 3,000 fonts and then I'd spend the next 2 years figuring out which one I like best. Then I'd eventually become overwhelmed with the strain of being undecided and having too many options, and I'd go back to Palatino.

I think it depends on the contrast of your Kindle. If you got a PW like mine you barely see the Palatino and Baskerville let alone read with it. Condensed Caecilia and Amasis are the fonts I always fall back on.

01-26-2013, 05:24 AM	#1
xtine Addict Posts: 355 Karma: 1432252 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Kobo Forma	Uneven Text on Paperwhite I've noticed that whenever I have to use the dictionary or click something on the menu (like adjusting screen brightness), the text becomes uneven (some parts darker, some parts lighter) when I return to my book. To demonstrate, here's a picture of my screen with the brightness adjustment menu over the text of my book: When I exit the screen adjustment menu, notice how the text enclosed in the red box is bolder than the text outside it -- coincidentally the part where the brightness adjustment menu used to be. Same image, without the red box: And after refreshing the page (turning one page back, then forward again), everything is even again: This is just a minor annoyance and quickly resolved with a screen refresh, but I just wonder if this is normal with all PW's? I have screen refresh set to "on" by the way. Attached Thumbnails

01-26-2013, 08:30 AM	#4
DuckieTigger Wizard Posts: 4,742 Karma: 246906703 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: USA Device: Oasis 3, Oasis 2, PW3, PW1, KT	When I notice that, I just go back a page and forward one to get a fresh page (my refresh is on every page). Just wish there was an option to full refresh after closing menu. Update: Just noticed on 5.3.3 it does full refresh after dictionary or menu or after opening menu, even if page refresh is turned off. Maybe updating might help? Last edited by DuckieTigger; 01-26-2013 at 08:40 AM.

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	It's caused by the fact that there's no full screen refresh after the dictionary definition disappears. It's entirely normal.

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Snorkledorf Blue. Not sad...just blue Posts: 218 Karma: 1267018 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Japan Device: Ridibooks Paper Pro	Yeah mine does that too.

01-26-2013, 08:59 AM	#5
NullNix Guru Posts: 916 Karma: 13928438 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ely, Cambridgeshire, UK Device: Kindle Oasis 3, Kindle Oasis 1	This is perfectly normal e-ink stuff. I saw exactly the same thing on my K4 at times (generally when using the web browser, since the K4 makes less use of overlays in its reading application). The full refresh on closing the menu is also old stuff, there since at least the K3.

01-26-2013, 03:44 PM	#7
Blossom Treasure Seeker Posts: 18,708 Karma: 26026435 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: Kobo HD Glo, Kindles, Kindle Fires, Andriod Devices	I don't have this problem but I do have my PW set to refresh every page.

01-26-2013, 08:14 PM	#8
xtine Addict Posts: 355 Karma: 1432252 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Kobo Forma	Thanks, Blossom. I just thought it was weird since I had a Touch before this and I never noticed it before.

01-26-2013, 08:44 PM	#9
Julius Caesar Addict Posts: 341 Karma: 1244808 Join Date: Oct 2012 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	There is a similar discussion about this issue at Amazon board http://www.amazon.com/forum/kindle?_...Tx937PQMPBDFRB

01-26-2013, 09:03 PM	#10
BakaTensai Member Posts: 11 Karma: 459444 Join Date: Dec 2012 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Same issue here. It is not too bad IMO, but I do seem to have issues with the screen in some other ways. For example, the thinner fonts (Baskerville, Palantino) don't display well. They look very washed out and faint.