Adobe digital edition 1.8 and linux

EowynCarter · 08-04-2011, 03:25 AM

Adobe recently released a preview for a new ADE version.
Among other things, they switched to .net, causing ADE not to work with wine anymore.

I posted a message there :
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3839931#3839931 (You might need to be logged in adobe's message board)

Response was the usual : we don't support linux.

If you're using ADE with wine, and I know there are a few linux user around here, please post on the adobe message board, to tell adobe there are people using Linux who would appreciate a working software.

Hellmark · 08-04-2011, 03:44 AM

One reason to not upgrade until forced...

EowynCarter · 08-04-2011, 03:52 AM

Yes, but sooner or later we'll have that message forcing the upgrade...

And why should we stay with the old version ?

Hellmark · 08-04-2011, 04:03 AM

If the new version doesn't work, and really no new features, why upgrade?

If they had new features, then upgrade. If they had bug fixes for things you had issues with, then upgrade.

Basically, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I dunno, for most things I like having the latest version, but in cases like this I don't see the point in upgrading if it can be avoided.

Jellby · 08-04-2011, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EowynCarter

Response was the usual : we don't support linux.

Fine. We don't support Adobe either

The funny thing is most dedicated readers use the Adobe engine with a Linux OS...

sherman · 08-04-2011, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellmark

If the new version doesn't work, and really no new features, why upgrade?

If they had new features, then upgrade. If they had bug fixes for things you had issues with, then upgrade.

Basically, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I dunno, for most things I like having the latest version, but in cases like this I don't see the point in upgrading if it can be avoided.

From memory, ADE is one of those programs that force you to upgrade to the latest version, otherwise it will stop working (at least that's what has happened in the past).

EowynCarter · 08-04-2011, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellmark

If the new version doesn't work, and really no new features, why upgrade?

If they had new features, then upgrade. If they had bug fixes for things you had issues with, then upgrade.

Basically, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I dunno, for most things I like having the latest version, but in cases like this I don't see the point in upgrading if it can be avoided.

There is few new stuff.
And my experience with ADE is that at some point it will pop annoying "you need to update" message. I don't need to update *now*, but at some point I will have to.

I just wanted to see what 1.8 looked like. It's in a wine bottle separate from the "old" one. I'm glad i did, At least now i know 1.8 will not work.

EowynCarter · 08-04-2011, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jellby

Fine. We don't support Adobe either

The funny thing is most dedicated readers use the Adobe engine with a Linux OS...

And yes sherman, that is my memory too.

HarryT · 08-04-2011, 04:36 AM

It's hardly Adobe's fault that WINE doesn't support .net, is it?

EowynCarter · 08-04-2011, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

It's hardly Adobe's fault that WINE doesn't support .net, is it?

It's adobe's fault for using .Net without checking it would be compatible with wine. Anyone having used wine a little knows that .NET don't work with wine.

SleepyBob · 08-04-2011, 11:14 AM

Why should they check for compatibility with a platform they don't support? I know it sucks for you, but it seems silly (from their perspective) to limit themselves from using the programming tools that they would otherwise use because it may cause issues on operating systems that it isn't intended to run on. Do you expect them to check that their programs run under Windows 3.1 or DOS, too? Not quite the same thing, but close enough.

EowynCarter · 08-04-2011, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleepyBob

Why should they check for compatibility with a platform they don't support? I know it sucks for you, but it seems silly (from their perspective) to limit themselves from using the programming tools that they would otherwise use because it may cause issues on operating systems that it isn't intended to run on. Do you expect them to check that their programs run under Windows 3.1 or DOS, too? Not quite the same thing, but close enough.

Not at all. Windows 3.1 and DOS are hardly used anymore. That's not the case for Linux. They should provide Linux support.

charleski · 08-04-2011, 11:55 AM

1.8 only seems to require .NET 2.0.5 (I'm basing this on looking at the associated handles that it opens and the associated .NET assemblies in procexp), which is pretty old. I don't use WINE, but I do know there are various tricks out there to get .NET 2 installed on it.

DiapDealer · 08-04-2011, 12:10 PM

Quote:

1.8 only seems to require .NET 2.0.5 (I'm basing this on looking at the associated handles that it opens and the associated .NET assemblies in procexp), which is pretty old. I don't use WINE, but I do know there are various tricks out there to get .NET 2 installed on it.

.Net 2 installs pretty painlessly on more recent versions of wine with winetricks (always start with a clean wincfg before installing .NET). There's still no guarantee that any apps that require it will actually work in wine once it's installed, but your chances are a lot better than with an app that requires .NET 3 or 3.5.

It does suck that most of the dedicated ereaders out there use linux as their OS but their retailers completely blow that community off when it comes time to develop their desktop apps.

Hellmark · 08-04-2011, 02:12 PM

The other problem is, at one point they planned on supporting linux. They even had a linux version in development, but they scrapped it last minute due to an executive level decision. This was kept in mind by some of their developers. Not only that, but .Net is Windows only. ADE is crossplatform, since they support OSX as well. It makes little to no sense to use tools that are locked to a single platform to make an app that you do support over more than one platform.

08-04-2011, 03:25 AM	#1
EowynCarter Wizard Posts: 4,332 Karma: 4000000 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Paris Device: Cybooks; Sony PRS-T1	Adobe digital edition 1.8 and linux Adobe recently released a preview for a new ADE version. Among other things, they switched to .net, causing ADE not to work with wine anymore. I posted a message there : http://forums.adobe.com/message/3839931#3839931 (You might need to be logged in adobe's message board) Response was the usual : we don't support linux. If you're using ADE with wine, and I know there are a few linux user around here, please post on the adobe message board, to tell adobe there are people using Linux who would appreciate a working software.

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08-04-2011, 03:52 AM	#3
EowynCarter Wizard Posts: 4,332 Karma: 4000000 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Paris Device: Cybooks; Sony PRS-T1	Yes, but sooner or later we'll have that message forcing the upgrade... And why should we stay with the old version ?

08-04-2011, 04:03 AM	#4
Hellmark Wizard Posts: 2,549 Karma: 3799999 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: O'Fallon, Missouri, USA Device: Nokia N800, PRS-505, Nook STR Glowlight, Kindle 3	If the new version doesn't work, and really no new features, why upgrade? If they had new features, then upgrade. If they had bug fixes for things you had issues with, then upgrade. Basically, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I dunno, for most things I like having the latest version, but in cases like this I don't see the point in upgrading if it can be avoided.

08-04-2011, 04:36 AM	#9
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	It's hardly Adobe's fault that WINE doesn't support .net, is it?

08-04-2011, 11:14 AM	#11
SleepyBob Evangelist Posts: 420 Karma: 8522810 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Device: Kindle PW3	Why should they check for compatibility with a platform they don't support? I know it sucks for you, but it seems silly (from their perspective) to limit themselves from using the programming tools that they would otherwise use because it may cause issues on operating systems that it isn't intended to run on. Do you expect them to check that their programs run under Windows 3.1 or DOS, too? Not quite the same thing, but close enough.

08-04-2011, 11:55 AM	#13
charleski Wizard Posts: 1,196 Karma: 1281258 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: PRS-505	1.8 only seems to require .NET 2.0.5 (I'm basing this on looking at the associated handles that it opens and the associated .NET assemblies in procexp), which is pretty old. I don't use WINE, but I do know there are various tricks out there to get .NET 2 installed on it.

08-04-2011, 02:12 PM	#15
Hellmark Wizard Posts: 2,549 Karma: 3799999 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: O'Fallon, Missouri, USA Device: Nokia N800, PRS-505, Nook STR Glowlight, Kindle 3	The other problem is, at one point they planned on supporting linux. They even had a linux version in development, but they scrapped it last minute due to an executive level decision. This was kept in mind by some of their developers. Not only that, but .Net is Windows only. ADE is crossplatform, since they support OSX as well. It makes little to no sense to use tools that are locked to a single platform to make an app that you do support over more than one platform.

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