iPod Apple announces a new iPod Touch

DaleDe · 05-28-2019, 02:24 PM

https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/28/ap...paign=campaign

Techcrunch provides the details. It is mostly a CPU upgrade to the A10 Fusion chip making it the equivalent of an iPhone 7. It is the size of an iPhone 5.

Dale

Tarana · 05-28-2019, 02:43 PM

I was very excited. I don't have/use a Smartphone and my current Itouch is having a problem with app upgrades because I can't upgrade the system any longer. I'll save up for the midrange one. Yay! In addition, I was happy to see that while it does have Bluetooth function, it isn't totally dependent on it.

ilovejedd · 05-28-2019, 03:17 PM

Somewhat disappointing it's still iPhone 5/5s size. I've encountered some apps where the touch points are off on 4" devices. I think some developers just aren't bothering testing with that size nowadays.

Also no TouchID. After 6 years, you'd think that technology would've trickled down by now.

lumpynose · 05-28-2019, 04:22 PM

It's kind of interesting that they're still making these. Several years ago I looked for the equivalent gizmo in the android space and they are rare. Samsung made one but it was pricey.

ilovejedd · 05-28-2019, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lumpynose

It's kind of interesting that they're still making these. Several years ago I looked for the equivalent gizmo in the android space and they are rare. Samsung made one but it was pricey.

I don't really see the point of an Android version of the iPod touch when plenty of fairly decent Android smartphones can be had for $100-200 full MSRP (even under $50 for prepaid kits). I'm particularly fond of the Moto E and G series.

lumpynose · 05-28-2019, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovejedd

I don't really see the point of an Android version of the iPod touch when plenty of fairly decent Android smartphones can be had for $100-200 full MSRP (even under $50 for prepaid kits). I'm particularly fond of the Moto E and G series.

Yeah they're priced nicely now. Back when I checked for an android mp3 player the prices weren't so great. I think the Samsung one that I found was over $200.

OtinG · 05-28-2019, 04:50 PM

It seems like it would be better to buy a used iPhone 7 or 7+ than the new Touch. Bigger screen, and you could use it for a smartphone if you decided too. I recently sold mine for $235 with good battery and 128GB, and that was about the going rate on eBay. A Touch with 128GB will cost more.

ilovejedd · 05-28-2019, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lumpynose

Yeah they're priced nicely now. Back when I checked for an android mp3 player the prices weren't so great. I think the Samsung one that I found was over $200.

Must've been ages ago (tech-wise). The 1st generation Moto G phone was released in 2013, iirc.

Tarana · 05-28-2019, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovejedd

Somewhat disappointing it's still iPhone 5/5s size. I've encountered some apps where the touch points are off on 4" devices. I think some developers just aren't bothering testing with that size nowadays.

Also no TouchID. After 6 years, you'd think that technology would've trickled down by now.

If you want a iphone feature buy an Iphone. I love the size, and thank APPLE they didn't put TouchID on it. I don't want those nightmares nor the cost associated with it.

ilovejedd · 05-28-2019, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tarana

If you want a iphone feature buy an Iphone. I love the size, and thank APPLE they didn't put TouchID on it. I don't want those nightmares nor the cost associated with it.

When a $100 Moto E has fingerprint authentication, TouchID should've been incorporated into the iPod touch refresh without additional cost.

Honestly, it's not so much the size per se but rather the fact that some developers ignore that 4" iOS devices still exist. My mom has a 4" iPhone SE (still performs great, only cost $150 for 32GB brand new a couple years ago) and on a couple of her apps, she came to me saying the (virtual) "buttons" don't work. I eventually discovered the touch points are several pixels away from the button/icon graphics. It's like 4" devices are treated like the bastard stepchild by devs now.

lumpynose · 05-28-2019, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovejedd

Honestly, it's not so much the size per se but rather the fact that some developers ignore that 4" iOS devices still exist. My mom has a 4" iPhone SE (still performs great, only cost $150 for 32GB brand new a couple years ago) and on a couple of her apps, she came to me saying the (virtual) "buttons" don't work. I eventually discovered the touch points are several pixels away from the button/icon graphics. It's like 4" devices are treated like the bastard stepchild by devs now.

Apple is notorious for breaking drivers and apps with system updates. So it could be some system update on the phone that broke the app rather than they wrote it poorly. Probably not many developers test their stuff on all devices whenever there's a system update.

HarryT · 05-29-2019, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tarana

If you want a iphone feature buy an Iphone. I love the size, and thank APPLE they didn't put TouchID on it. I don't want those nightmares nor the cost associated with it.

What nightmares are you referring to, Tarana? I still use a 5-year-old iPhone 6 and Touch ID works beautifully on it.

ilovejedd · 05-29-2019, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lumpynose

Apple is notorious for breaking drivers and apps with system updates. So it could be some system update on the phone that broke the app rather than they wrote it poorly. Probably not many developers test their stuff on all devices whenever there's a system update.

I doubt it's drivers in this case.

That's kinda the point. It's not even about system updates breaking compatibility. With the lower market share, it's just not worth the devs' time anymore to optimize/fix things for 4" devices when there are plenty of other bugs that need fixing affecting a larger number of devices.

Alas, situation's not much better on the high end. It's been 4 years since the 12.9's release and there are still plenty of apps that just use a blown up version of the 9.7 interface. Non-mainstream sizes/resolutions get the short end of the stick.

WillAdams · 05-29-2019, 07:47 AM

Wish they'd made it support the Apple Pencil --- then I'd finally have a replacement for my Newton MessagePad.

pdurrant · 05-29-2019, 08:09 AM

This is the first iPod to have more than 160GB as an option.

But I agree that a second-hand 256GB iPhone 7 might be a better buy.

05-28-2019, 02:24 PM	#1
DaleDe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,470 Karma: 13095790 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Grass Valley, CA Device: EB 1150, EZ Reader, Literati, iPad 2 & Air 2, iPhone 7	Apple announces a new iPod Touch https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/28/ap...paign=campaign Techcrunch provides the details. It is mostly a CPU upgrade to the A10 Fusion chip making it the equivalent of an iPhone 7. It is the size of an iPhone 5. Dale Last edited by DaleDe; 05-28-2019 at 03:08 PM.

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Tarana Wizard Posts: 3,982 Karma: 38840460 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Minneapolis Device: PWSE, Voyage, K3, HDX, KBasic 7 & 8, Nook Glo3, Echos, Nanos	I was very excited. I don't have/use a Smartphone and my current Itouch is having a problem with app upgrades because I can't upgrade the system any longer. I'll save up for the midrange one. Yay! In addition, I was happy to see that while it does have Bluetooth function, it isn't totally dependent on it.

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ilovejedd hopeless n00b Posts: 5,111 Karma: 19597086 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: in the middle of nowhere Device: PW4, PW3, Libra H2O, iPad 10.5, iPad 11, iPad 12.9	Somewhat disappointing it's still iPhone 5/5s size. I've encountered some apps where the touch points are off on 4" devices. I think some developers just aren't bothering testing with that size nowadays. Also no TouchID. After 6 years, you'd think that technology would've trickled down by now.

05-28-2019, 04:22 PM	#4
lumpynose Wizard Posts: 1,086 Karma: 6719822 Join Date: Jul 2012 Device: Palm Pilot M105	It's kind of interesting that they're still making these. Several years ago I looked for the equivalent gizmo in the android space and they are rare. Samsung made one but it was pricey.

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OtinG Old Gadget Guy Posts: 1,906 Karma: 6854865 Join Date: Jun 2018 Device: Oasis 3, iPhone 13 Pro Max, iPad mini 6, iPad Air 2020, Alexa Devices	It seems like it would be better to buy a used iPhone 7 or 7+ than the new Touch. Bigger screen, and you could use it for a smartphone if you decided too. I recently sold mine for $235 with good battery and 128GB, and that was about the going rate on eBay. A Touch with 128GB will cost more.

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WillAdams Wizard Posts: 1,234 Karma: 3350652 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Amazon Kindle Paperwhite (300ppi), Samsung Galaxy Book 12	Wish they'd made it support the Apple Pencil --- then I'd finally have a replacement for my Newton MessagePad.

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pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 71,510 Karma: 306214458 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Voyage	This is the first iPod to have more than 160GB as an option. But I agree that a second-hand 256GB iPhone 7 might be a better buy.

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