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Old 10-15-2012, 11:56 AM   #1
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Judge Rules in Favor of Universities, Author’s Guild Displeased

Another milestone in the Author's Guild vs Google lawsuit.

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Federal Judge Harold Baer has dismissed the Author’s Guild’s copyright infringement lawsuit against five major universities who were working with Google on its massive book digitization program.
The universities, in a joint trust called the HathiTrust Digital Library, led by the University of Michigan, were scanning and posting books for Google.
The Author’s Guild claimed the universities and Google were illegally using copyrighted materials. Baer, however, said the project fell under ”fair use.”
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Old 10-15-2012, 12:12 PM   #2
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Wow.
It is not just that the Judge ruled in the Universities favour, but that he did so in a motion for summary judgement.
That means he is saying that no properly instructed jury could have possibly found that fair use did not apply.
That seems an extremely strong statement.
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Old 10-15-2012, 04:44 PM   #3
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When Google copies stuff it is fair use, but when we copy things it violates copyright. Big money wins again.
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:23 PM   #4
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When Google copies stuff it is fair use, but when we copy things it violates copyright. Big money wins again.
They've been very clever in partnering with universities and 'white hats'.
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:49 PM   #5
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Sounds like a good ruling to me, although it's limited in scope. From the article:

"The rules of the trust indicate only books in the public domain can have a full text search. Those who own copyright on the other materials would need to give approval before Google can use them."

Fair use ought to cover that; it should also cover use by students, faculty and staff. I don't know if Hathi has a plan for the latter, though.
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:44 PM   #6
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I love the headline.
Any day when a judge ruling makes the Authors' Guild unhappy is a good day.
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Author's Guild gives me a feeling of a community/organization/society which gives more weight to monetary value than ever-lasting things they can create.
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Author's Guild gives me a feeling of a community/organization/society which gives more weight to monetary value than ever-lasting things they can create.
If you go to the OED or Webster's and look up "Reactionary" you'll see a photo of Scott Turow and the AG directors.
Anything new offends them.
I'm hoping to see them offended often.
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Wow.
It is not just that the Judge ruled in the Universities favour, but that he did so in a motion for summary judgement.
That means he is saying that no properly instructed jury could have possibly found that fair use did not apply.
That seems an extremely strong statement.
"We find that it looks an awful lot like copyright infringement!" - Jury

"It's not. I told you it's not. Deal with it." - Judge
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