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Old 08-04-2021, 06:53 AM   #16
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@acprinter, turn WiFi off. Send your eBooks to your Kindle with Calibre and see if you still lose them. I cannot see Amazon removing eBooks from anyone's Kindle. It's most likely a problem with your Kindle. But this way, you will know for sure Amazon did not remove anything if they go.
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Old 06-22-2022, 06:17 PM   #17
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Did anyone ever figure out what happened here? I just had the same thing happen to me after enabling Wi-Fi for the first time in a long time (to get the new Kindle software update), and all of a sudden everything I had sideloaded from Calibre was gone. I'm about to plug it in to my computer and see what's going on. I also noticed that my Kindle was deregistered from my account, but I can't remember if I had done that on purpose myself before or not.
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Old 06-23-2022, 05:32 AM   #18
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Did anyone ever figure out what happened here? I just had the same thing happen to me after enabling Wi-Fi for the first time in a long time (to get the new Kindle software update), and all of a sudden everything I had sideloaded from Calibre was gone. I'm about to plug it in to my computer and see what's going on. I also noticed that my Kindle was deregistered from my account, but I can't remember if I had done that on purpose myself before or not.
I think if it’s deregistered everything is removed. I don’t think it’s possible to use a kindle without it being registered to an Amazon account.
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Old 06-23-2022, 05:37 AM   #19
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I think if it’s deregistered everything is removed. I don’t think it’s possible to use a kindle without it being registered to an Amazon account.
I don't think you are correct? I've seen quite a few posts about black listed Kindles and how they can't be registered, but can still be used for reading sideloaded content.
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Old 06-23-2022, 06:19 AM   #20
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I don't think you are correct? I've seen quite a few posts about black listed Kindles and how they can't be registered, but can still be used for reading sideloaded content.
Sorry I meant with Amazon ebooks. The OP mentioned his kindle was registered.
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Old 06-23-2022, 07:30 AM   #21
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Sorry I meant with Amazon ebooks. The OP mentioned his kindle was registered.
Sounds like you are aware of things, but just in case someone less knowledgeable is casually browsing this ...


You can still read "Amazon ebooks", you just need to put in some effort: get an old version of Kindle for PC, Calibre, a NoDRM plugin, and Bob's your uncle.
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Old 06-23-2022, 08:05 AM   #22
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I don't think you are correct? I've seen quite a few posts about black listed Kindles and how they can't be registered, but can still be used for reading sideloaded content.
Yes, "sideloaded" content, but no collections or series. Though those work poorly on Kindles anyway. You can only manage collections via PC on the very old Kindles.

OTOH on my registered PW3 selecting Kid's Mode hid all "sideloaded" content. It came back when I disabled that. Really, really stupid given the 1000s of suitable classic PD texts.

Amazon is too controlling, so I only use my Kindle now as a "target" when buying eBooks.
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Old 06-23-2022, 11:07 AM   #23
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I agree that it cannot have been Amazon that removed my books. But the question still remains what happened?

I have 3 Paperwhites and the one in question has always exhibited odd behavior every now and then. My other 2 have always been fine. So I am going with the theory that it was just an internal glitch some kind. Although that was a heck of a glitch. The best piece of advise is to keep wifi off.
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I had this same thing happen a few years back on a paperwhite, only with sideloaded books I used Calibre with. I ended up having to put the books back on with Calibre and they stayed that time. Never was sure what happened. Thankfully it doesn't seem to have happened again that I can tell.
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Old 06-23-2022, 03:58 PM   #25
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I agree that it cannot have been Amazon that removed my books. But the question still remains what happened?

I have 3 Paperwhites and the one in question has always exhibited odd behavior every now and then. My other 2 have always been fine. So I am going with the theory that it was just an internal glitch some kind. Although that was a heck of a glitch. The best piece of advise is to keep wifi off.
Have you connected your kindle to a PC and see whether the PC can see the books?
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Old 06-24-2022, 02:58 PM   #26
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I am not trying to accuse OP of anything, but one scenario is that if a book was purchase on Amazon, downloaded and transferred via USB (whether DRM was kept intact is irrelevant) to Kindle on airplane mode, and then the book was refunded on Amazon, then the next time the device is connected to the internet, that book will be automatically removed.

The same is true for returned Prime Reading/Kindle Unlimited books.
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I am not trying to accuse OP of anything, but one scenario is that if a book was purchase on Amazon, downloaded and transferred via USB (whether DRM was kept intact is irrelevant) to Kindle on airplane mode, and then the book was refunded on Amazon, then the next time the device is connected to the internet, that book will be automatically removed.

The same is true for returned Prime Reading/Kindle Unlimited books.
Amazon doesn't remove sideloaded books, no matter where purchased. If they did, there would have been a major hullabaloo years ago.
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Amazon doesn't remove sideloaded books, no matter where purchased. If they did, there would have been a major hullabaloo years ago.
The one occasion I lost my sideloaded content on a Kindle, the issue was not that the content was missing since calibre still saw them as being on the Kindle, the issue was the Kindle's GUI did not show any of them as present. I ended up resetting the Kindle and resending the books. For me, it appeared to be more likely to be a glitch in the Kindle firmware than any deliberate action on Amazon's part.

To quote a variant of an quote by Ian Fleming: "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action."
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Amazon doesn't remove sideloaded books, no matter where purchased. If they did, there would have been a major hullabaloo years ago.
If it has mobi-asin field then it's Amazon book. By default DRM removal doesn't clean the mobi-asin field, hence, still Amazon book and can be removed remotely.

You can judge me all you wanted, but my post come from personal experience.
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If it has mobi-asin field then it's Amazon book. By default DRM removal doesn't clean the mobi-asin field, hence, still Amazon book and can be removed remotely.

You can judge me all you wanted, but my post come from personal experience.
I have many books not purchased from Amazon, to which I've added a mobi-asin. By this logic, Amazon should remove them from my Kindle, as they're not in my Kindle library or anywhere in my Amazon purchase records. They have not done so.
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