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Old 06-18-2015, 08:21 AM   #61
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This article claims that the Voyage has a higher contrast than the PW3. Is this something that can be noticed by the naked eye?
I think the article is misinformed. The Voyage and the PW2 both use the eInk Carta screen; the fact that the Voyage (and the new PW3) use the 300dpi version of the screen, compared to the 212dpi of the PW2, doesn't affect the contrast. Comparing my Voyage and PW2, the text is distinctly crisper and sharper on the Voyage due to the increased resolution, but I see no contrast difference. Blacks are equally black, and whites are equally white, on the two devices.
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:33 AM   #62
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Contrast is independent of resolution. It is theoretically possible that the PW3 uses a lower cost screen with the same resolution as the Voyage, but lower contrast. There could be different grades of screen, after all.
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:37 AM   #63
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It is theoretically possible that the PW3 uses a lower cost screen with the same resolution as the Voyage, but lower contrast. There could be different grades of screen, after all.
I suppose that's possible, but it seems rather unlikely. We'll just have to wait for the PW3 to be released, and see for ourselves.
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:39 AM   #64
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HarryT, I'm not sure I use the terms properly sometimes but I believe I'm on the opposite side on the PW2 and Voyage comparision. I'm old and my eyes suck but with my best magnifying glass the Helvitica text on the fourth down from the largest size is indistiguishable, for me, between the two. If I go to the smallest size, where I couldn't hope to read it, my magnifying glass doesn't show a difference, either. But, the lighting on my Voyage is much brighter than on the PW2 and the perceived contrast is greater. I'm not an engineer and have no way of measuring lumens or whatever but the Voyage and PW2 seem to be close on brightness with my PW2 at its highest setting and the Voyage four clicks down. That brightness difference does effect the perceived contrast for me.

For what it's worth, I thoroughly enjoy reading on both of them. The contrast is adequate for me on both.

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Old 06-18-2015, 08:39 AM   #65
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can i get my current kindle PW2 replaced by the new kindle paperwhite
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:40 AM   #66
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You need only have spent about 10 seconds . If the logo on the back says "Kindle", it's a PW1; if it says "Amazon" it's a PW2.

The name really shouldn't come as a surprise. Amazon have never used model numbers for the Kindle; it's always been "all new X" or "latest model Y".
If I had this info in my hand, it would have been 10 seconds.
The problem was, they only had one box (that I wasn't allowed to open) and nobody could say for sure whether it was the old one or the new one.

I spent 15 minutes looking for a computer with a working Internet in the store and another 15 minutes searching blogs for the difference in packaging for the new and old model. A customer isn't supposed to have to be doing this.

A year before that a friend of mine bought an older version of Kindle Touch in the same store instead of newer, because they were very similar was well.

This is the same problem as with iPads, for example. A person who is not very familiar with iPads is not able to distinguish between various models. In some cases even veteran Apple user has problem to identify whether the device is iPad 2 or iPad 3.
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:42 AM   #67
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But, the lighting on my Voyage is much brighter than on the PW2 and the perceived contrast is greater. I'm not an engineer and have no way of measuring lumens or whatever but the Voyage and PW2 seem to be close on brightness with my PW2 at its highest setting and the Voyage four clicks down. That brightness difference does effect the perceived contrast for me.
I guess that could certainly affect it, yes. Personally I never have the lighting on anything close to maximum, so it wouldn't affect me.

You're right - the Voyage's light on maximum is distinctly brighter than the PW2's. Way too bright for my eyes .
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If you bought your PW2 within the past 30 days, I think Amazon will accept a return for a full refund. Otherwise, no.

But Amazon might well produce a firmware update that will give the PW2 most of the capabilities of the PW3, except for the higher resolution screen, of course.
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Where did you see there is more RAM? I can't find the specs anywhere?
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amazon home page -> new pw ad (top right) -> tech details or -> compare kindles

but details do not include the amount of RAM !
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00QJDO0Q...39A7AFK84#tech
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If you bought your PW2 within the past 30 days, I think Amazon will accept a return for a full refund. Otherwise, no.

But Amazon might well produce a firmware update that will give the PW2 most of the capabilities of the PW3, except for the higher resolution screen, of course.
are they going to phase the older pw2 out? what if my kindle *cough cough* produces a problem that warrants a replacement? in that case would it be possible?
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I spent 15 minutes looking for a computer with a working Internet in the store and another 15 minutes searching blogs for the difference in packaging for the new and old model. A customer isn't supposed to have to be doing this.
I completely agree with you. It's the store's responsibility to know what product they're selling.

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A year before that a friend of mine bought an older version of Kindle Touch in the same store instead of newer, because they were very similar was well.
No, your friend is mistaken. There was only ever one version of the Kindle Touch (until the very recent "basic" touch model). The Touch was the replacement for the Kindle Keyboard, and was itself replaced by the PW.
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This article claims that the Voyage has a higher contrast than the PW3. Is this something that can be noticed by the naked eye?
I doubt you'd get higher contrast with the Voyage. The PW3 is using the same Carta screen. The difference could be in the light laryer between the Voyage and the PW3. The the eInk part of the screen is no different. There is only one version of the Carta eInk screen and both (at 6") will be the same.
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are they going to phase the older pw2 out? what if my kindle *cough cough* produces a problem that warrants a replacement? in that case would it be possible?
I'm sure that they won't be producing any more PW2s. But they certainly do still have some stock of them.

I can't say what Amazon's response will be to any particular problem that may develop on your existing PW2. But I doubt they'll look kindly on a 'fault' that develops soon after a model update.
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Almost certainly, yes.

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They'll give you a refurbished device, just as they would if it were to fail today. Replacements are rarely new (unless they are faulty from new).
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I'm sure that they won't be producing any more PW2s. But they certainly do still have some stock of them.

I can't say what Amazon's response will be to any particular problem that may develop on your existing PW2. But I doubt they'll look kindly on a 'fault' that develops soon after a model update.
then maybe a couple of months should nail it imho. I wish I had the money to buy a new pw3. sad
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