11-15-2012, 02:11 PM | #481 |
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11-15-2012, 02:22 PM | #482 |
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LOL are you serious?
The cost of the iPhone 4S in China is RMB 4488, or ~$720 USD. That represents 8% of the ANNUAL income of the average Chinese citizen. The equivalent in the US would be $3,400. In Germany, 3 200 €. And we're supposed to be surprised that the Chinese are overwhelmingly buying downmarket Android handsets instead? Please try to make an effort before you post. Last edited by holymadness; 11-15-2012 at 02:27 PM. |
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Edit: Interestingly, and just to show that the amount charged bares no relation to the cost, but does to the competition, it costs £70 to add 16GB of memory to the Nexus 10, but only £40 to add it to the Nexus 7 (or 4). That (£40) is the same that Amazon charge for an extra 16GB on the Fire HD. (16GB of Apple memory doesn't get a discount for being put in a smaller device, the iPad Mini upgrade is the same cost at the iPad4 upgrade) Last edited by murraypaul; 11-15-2012 at 05:32 PM. |
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11-15-2012, 05:53 PM | #484 | |
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Here's the bottom line. It is my opinion that the main reason Apple has non-removable storage is greed. I base that on the large overall profit margins on their hardware, which far exceed any other mobile device manufacturer. I stated early on that I don't feel it is the only reason. And I and others also stated we don't support Google doing it either. Yet you chose to act as if that was never said. Why? If you don't agree with my opinion, that's fine. It is after all an opinion and by no means an indisputable fact. So long as you read all of what I actually wrote instead of forcing pieces into the anti-Apple stereotype you like to argue about while ignoring the pieces that don't. Last edited by pl001; 11-15-2012 at 05:56 PM. |
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And no one is saying they're going to fail because of greed, just that they are greedy. You can be greedy and successful. As far as the others, people bitch about them too. |
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The average life expectancy of a multinational corporation-Fortune 500 or its equivalent-is between 40 and 50 years. Apple is about 35 years old, so one may guess it will wind things up in the 2020's. It might be objected that companies which become, for even a short time, the world's largest in market capitalization, last longer. The Pennsylvania Railroad lasted about 114 years. General Electric has lasted over a century. So I could be wrong. Of course I really have no way of knowing if Apple will be long lived like GM and Ford, or short-lived like one-time Dow components Studebaker, Nash and Hudson, or in-between, like Saab, Chrysler, and, in another industry, Polaroid. But I seriously think the computer design and manufacturing industry is one where high flyers get shot down, so I'm gonna question their ability to make in to 2030. This isn't a stock you want to buy and hold. If you want more of a reason, it looks like we are entering an era of economic weakness. When more recessions come, a discount outfit like Amazon will be better positioned than a luxury level pricing firm like Apple. |
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Steve, if you are the first -- or simply one of just a few -- then that would confirm my belief that holymadness is prone to wild exaggeration.
At any rate, your prediction is based on the law of averages, economic weakness, and volatility of the computer industry, rather than corporate greed, the death of Jobs, or lack of innovation. --Pat |
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