Books you gave up on ever being ebooks - Page 5

HarryT · 10-29-2015, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cadele

Thank you ekbell and issybird! I had no idea they were available in Canada.

A little trip and that terrific 50% Kobo coupon and the omnibus book is mine.

They're only available in Canada because they're in the public domain in Canada. You cannot legally buy them if you're in a country in which they're still protected by copyright. It's piracy, plain and simple, to do so.

pdurrant · 10-29-2015, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

They're only available in Canada because they're in the public domain in Canada. You cannot legally buy them if you're in a country in which they're still protected by copyright. It's piracy, plain and simple, to do so.

Of course, crossing the border into Canada before buying/downloading would make it perfectly legal.

I must admit that I find it hard to worry about the potential losses to an estate of someone who died more than 50 years ago. Especially as the desired product isn't available where the copyright is still valid.

HarryT · 10-29-2015, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

Of course, crossing the border into Canada before buying/downloading would make it perfectly legal.

Very true.

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I must admit that I find it hard to worry about the potential losses to an estate of someone who died more than 50 years ago. Especially as the desired product isn't available where the copyright is still valid.

One may not worry about it, but it's undeniably illegal.

pdurrant · 10-29-2015, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

One may not worry about it, but it's undeniably illegal.

Rather like driving at 71mph in a 70mph zone.

HarryT · 10-29-2015, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

Rather like driving at 71mph in a 70mph zone.

Except that we do, as you know, have guidelines about advocating ebook piracy on MR, which is what this is

.

pdurrant · 10-29-2015, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ekbell

I was going to say they are in ebook form on Amazon ... and then I remembered I use Amazon.ca

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Originally Posted by cadele

Thank you ekbell and issybird! I had no idea they were available in Canada.

A little trip and that terrific 50% Kobo coupon and the omnibus book is mine.

Alas no illustrations

but I can scan my decrepit old paperbacks and edit them in. Well, one of these days, anyway, as there are so many of them

Moderator Notice

Note that books by Laura Ingalls Wilder are out of copyright in Canada, but are still in copyright in the US and EU.

Only people physically present Canada are legally allowed to purchase and download the ebook versions available in Canada, because the point of sale for an ebook is the location of the person buying the ebook.

dandelioncottage · 10-29-2015, 09:12 AM

I'd love to see this as an ebook, as well as books by Margery Sharp and "Tryst" by Elswyth Thane.

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Originally Posted by susan_cassidy

I'd love to get "84, Charing Cross Road" as an ebook. The sequel, The Duchess of Bloomsbury Street is now available for preorder, so I have a tiny bit of hope.

NickyWithNook · 10-29-2015, 10:00 AM

I was going to say The House of the Spirits by Isabel Allende, but I see it's recently come out as an ebook! I've seen her other books as ebooks for a while, but this one was a hold out. I'm glad its out now!

HarryT · 10-29-2015, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dandelioncottage

I'd love to see this as an ebook, as well as books by Margery Sharp and "Tryst" by Elswyth Thane.

On Amazon UK, "84, Charing Cross Road" is available as an eBook in Spanish, but not in English

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shalym · 10-29-2015, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

On Amazon UK, "84, Charing Cross Road" is available as an eBook in Spanish, but not in English

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It's the same in the US--the Spanish translation is available in ebook form, but not the English.

Shari

Difflugia · 10-29-2015, 01:20 PM

Asimov's Guide to the Bible
The New Jerusalem Bible (it's available as a Logos book and can be read a couple of places online, but it's not available as a standard ebook)
The New English Bible (same deal)

barryem · 10-29-2015, 03:43 PM

When I was young I used to enjoy reading the historical novels of Frank Yerby. I'm about to turn 75 so that was a very long time ago. Since then I've been unable to find them as ebooks.

Yerby is almost forgotten these days, for some reason. Back in the 1940s and 1950s he was a huge bestselling author. The majority of his books would have to be classified today as historical romance novels about plantation life in past centuries in the USA. However, he wrote more serious historical novels as well, and those are the ones I'd like to re-read. But I can't, it seems. Amazon has one, which I've bought and have on my Kindle. And that's it.

Quite a few of his novels were made into movies. During his lifetime he sold 55 million books and they were translated into quite a few languages. It's amazing to me that someone that popular can simply disappear.

I remember a news report about him, probably sometime in the 1960's, where it was reported that he was a black man and that his publishers had always kept that a secret. Now I can't find any mention of that ever having been a secret. It seems that history keeps right on changing.

Barry

tdonline · 10-29-2015, 04:19 PM

I'd like to see Albert Cohen's Belle du Seigneur in English as an E-book. The book is available at my library but there's no way I can handle DTB font sizes for over 900 pages.

spindlegirl · 10-29-2015, 04:50 PM

A few years ago, I gave up and bought the giant tome "A Suitable Boy" by Vikram Seth, because it's the size of war and peace, and I can't see it ever gettting e'ed. I tend to buy long books because I tend to read slowly and flit from book to book, at that. So it was a decent buy.

GibbinR · 10-29-2015, 05:08 PM

This may be slightly off-topic, so the moderator should feel free to move it to another forum, but thinking in terms of physical books, it has always been possible to buy books published in the US (for example) in the UK. I'm thinking in terms of SF now. There was for many years, and still is for all I know, a shop in London called 'Forbidden Planet' which sold imported US-published SF books that weren't otherwise available in the UK. I assume this was perfectly legal. The shop was open for at least twenty years, with no attempt to conceal its existence.
Somehow what the e-publishing industry needs is a way to do 'personal' imports, or limited imports from other jurisdictions. I'm not advocating breaking the law, quite the contrary. But if it's legal for physical books in small quantities, why cannot some mechanism be found to make it legal for e-books too?
For physical books one typically paid more - after all the books had to be freighted across the Atlantic. Personally I wouldn't object to, say, paying a fee to some notional copyright fund when importing from another jurisdiction, so that whoever turns out to own the rights gets their cut eventually. What seems ridiculous is the current system of blanket non-availability, presumably for basically financial reasons, when people like me are only too willing to pay a bit extra for the privilege. I think a little technical/legal creativity is required. Current DRM/licensing/distribution technology doesn't reflect the complexity of the real world.

10-29-2015, 10:00 AM	#68
NickyWithNook Guru Posts: 748 Karma: 3942770 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Michigan, USA Device: Kindle Fire, Kindle Paperwhite (Don't use Nook anymore)	I was going to say The House of the Spirits by Isabel Allende, but I see it's recently come out as an ebook! I've seen her other books as ebooks for a while, but this one was a hold out. I'm glad its out now! Last edited by NickyWithNook; 10-29-2015 at 10:03 AM.

10-29-2015, 01:20 PM	#71
Difflugia Testate Amoeba Posts: 3,049 Karma: 27300000 Join Date: Sep 2012 Device: Many Android devices, Kindle 2, Toshiba e755 PocketPC	Asimov's Guide to the Bible The New Jerusalem Bible (it's available as a Logos book and can be read a couple of places online, but it's not available as a standard ebook) The New English Bible (same deal)

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10-29-2015, 03:43 PM	#72
barryem Wizard Posts: 2,459 Karma: 68781975 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Arkansas Device: Paperwhite 4	When I was young I used to enjoy reading the historical novels of Frank Yerby. I'm about to turn 75 so that was a very long time ago. Since then I've been unable to find them as ebooks. Yerby is almost forgotten these days, for some reason. Back in the 1940s and 1950s he was a huge bestselling author. The majority of his books would have to be classified today as historical romance novels about plantation life in past centuries in the USA. However, he wrote more serious historical novels as well, and those are the ones I'd like to re-read. But I can't, it seems. Amazon has one, which I've bought and have on my Kindle. And that's it. Quite a few of his novels were made into movies. During his lifetime he sold 55 million books and they were translated into quite a few languages. It's amazing to me that someone that popular can simply disappear. I remember a news report about him, probably sometime in the 1960's, where it was reported that he was a black man and that his publishers had always kept that a secret. Now I can't find any mention of that ever having been a secret. It seems that history keeps right on changing. Barry

10-29-2015, 04:19 PM	#73
tdonline Addict Posts: 309 Karma: 2644486 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: PW3, Nook Simple Touch	I'd like to see Albert Cohen's Belle du Seigneur in English as an E-book. The book is available at my library but there's no way I can handle DTB font sizes for over 900 pages.

10-29-2015, 04:50 PM	#74
spindlegirl Wizard Posts: 1,594 Karma: 21245891 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Canada Device: Kobo Libra h20, Paperwhite 2017, Phone & Tablet w Moonreader	A few years ago, I gave up and bought the giant tome "A Suitable Boy" by Vikram Seth, because it's the size of war and peace, and I can't see it ever gettting e'ed. I tend to buy long books because I tend to read slowly and flit from book to book, at that. So it was a decent buy.

10-29-2015, 05:08 PM	#75
GibbinR Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 6788226 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Chester, UK Device: Kobo Aura One, iPad mini 5, Kindle Oasis 3	This may be slightly off-topic, so the moderator should feel free to move it to another forum, but thinking in terms of physical books, it has always been possible to buy books published in the US (for example) in the UK. I'm thinking in terms of SF now. There was for many years, and still is for all I know, a shop in London called 'Forbidden Planet' which sold imported US-published SF books that weren't otherwise available in the UK. I assume this was perfectly legal. The shop was open for at least twenty years, with no attempt to conceal its existence. Somehow what the e-publishing industry needs is a way to do 'personal' imports, or limited imports from other jurisdictions. I'm not advocating breaking the law, quite the contrary. But if it's legal for physical books in small quantities, why cannot some mechanism be found to make it legal for e-books too? For physical books one typically paid more - after all the books had to be freighted across the Atlantic. Personally I wouldn't object to, say, paying a fee to some notional copyright fund when importing from another jurisdiction, so that whoever turns out to own the rights gets their cut eventually. What seems ridiculous is the current system of blanket non-availability, presumably for basically financial reasons, when people like me are only too willing to pay a bit extra for the privilege. I think a little technical/legal creativity is required. Current DRM/licensing/distribution technology doesn't reflect the complexity of the real world.