09-30-2018, 10:57 AM | #1 |
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Library management system suggestions
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I just registered on the forum, after countless Google searches returned links to topics here, where I could witness how knowledgeable the members are and the high level of the discussion going on. I've been using the iPad since the 1st generation as an ebook reader. At the time I just started using iBooks as my reader app as that's what was available. Unfortunately I get the feeling that Apple is trying very hard to make iBooks less useful with every new version, and iOS 12 with the change to Apple Books sealed its fate for me -- I'm finally looking seriously for alternatives, and I'd very much appreciate the input of the community here to help me choose. Some information to start with:
Basically I'm a fan of the iTunes model of syncing music tracks between my Mac and iOS devices, while keeping the files well organized in an easily user accessible folder in the file system. Obviously there's no way that I know of to download music tracks in the Music app in iOS and sync them back to iTunes, so that's an extra feature I'm looking for in my setup. To try to put it as concisely as I can, what I'm looking for would be similar in spirit to what Dropbox is to file management. From my research, it seems like Calibre is ideally suited to implement the Mac side of my library management system. Although I'm not a fan of the app's UI, I'm confident it will do the job, even if not in the most pleasant way. The issue now is to find a companion iPad app that fits into this system. As I mentioned, I already downloaded the MapleRead app and was trying to implement a setup like I described above, but I ran into some roadblocks. Let me make it clear that I haven't done as much research as necessary -- I just downloaded MapleRead last night and didn't spend that much time with it, but maybe my issues here are something that forum members have seen before and will be able to help me overcome.
Ideally I would like to stay with one app only, but it appears the Calibre Companion iOS app may be the missing piece of the puzzle for my library management system. Unfortunately, from reading the app's description on the App Store and their website, I was left with more questions than answers. I can't picture concretely in my mind what it does or how it works -- maybe a demo video of Calibre Companion in action would help me understand? Maybe a more knowledgeable member of the forum could help me understand if its syncing process is closer to what I need than MapleRead's and if it will sync my subgroups (Genre tags) from Calibre. Also, I'm unclear about integration of Calibre Companion with reader apps, and exactly how it works -- e.g. is the library kept in MapleRead or Calibre Companion? When I open a file in Calibre Companion, is it copied over to MapleRead, so I may end up with basically two copies of my library, one in Calibre Companion and the other in MapleRead (I don't have enough free space in my iPad for two copies of the library)? What about syncing last page read between both apps? Etc. I will buy Calibre Companion in a heartbeat if it is clear that it solves my problem, but as it is, I'm not clear on how it works and won't speculatively spend money on it just to find out it's not suitable for my system. I now defer to the very knowledgeable members of this forum, hoping that you may enlighten me on ways to overcome the issues that I've found, or even suggest a completely new workflow that implements my requirements above. Thanks in advance |
09-30-2018, 02:44 PM | #2 |
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Calibre Companion syncs with Calibre. The way that I use it is I keep all my books in Calibre and Calibre Companion, then I send the books that I'm either in the process of reading or about to read to by reading app (Marvin in my case) via the read button in the calibre companion app. When I'm done reading, I delete it from my reading app and leave it in Calibre Companion.
Syncing last page read is done by the reading app. I have yet to see a reading app that syncs between different reading apps, you always have to have the same app on different devices. Yea, I wish that was a thing as well. I would love to sync between reading on my iPad, my Kobo eInk reader and my mac, but I know of no solution that will do that. I know that you can sync between the kindle app on your mac and the kindle app on your iPad, I assume you can do the same with iBooks, though I haven't tried it with the new books app. |
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09-30-2018, 03:50 PM | #3 |
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Thanks for replying.
So as I understand, Calibre Companion is used to sync with the Mac, but then to actually read books, I have to transfer them from Calibre Companion to the reader app, and manually delete them when done? And in the meanwhile, they will be taking up space in both apps (Calibre Companion and the reader app)? I have to admit, I find that a little awkward. In that regard, iBooks is in my opinion much better. Can you add ebooks to Calibre Companion in the iPad? Will they sync back to Calibre running in the Mac? What about tagging? Will Calibre Companion work correctly with the subgroups/genres tagging system that I mentioned in my post? My understanding is that Calibre Companion's main advantage is that it shows up as a device inside Calibre. Is it the only app for iPad that does that? Sorry for asking so many questions, but I'm really struggling to "get" how Calibre and Calibre Companion works. |
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Your main problem is that perfection doesn't really exist and frankly, most of these sort of apps can't make money, so they are works of love that are only updated sporadically. At one time, the Marvin/Calibre combo did much of what you want, but as I said, the two way sync was broken with an iOS update and the plug-in developer moved on to other things. That's the reality as I understand it. |
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I understand. It's just that I had certain fundamental gripes with iBooks (now Apple Books) that drove me to seek alternatives. However, I'm now thinking the alternatives may be even worse than what iBooks offers. I will keep looking, and of course appreciate any further input. Still, thanks for taking your time to help.
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Yes, there are certain things about iBooks/Books that I don't like. That's why I use the CC/Marvin combination. It does most of what I need it to do. The only thing that I really miss is the percent read and finished reading sync. |
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Since nobody else replied, I'd like to broaden the scope of the question a bit, by getting a little creative.
Since there's no eBook app that does what I want natively, what about treating this as a simple file sync problem, putting aside the fact that the files in question are eBooks? Basically I see two options here:
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I suspect that the reason you don't see a lot of response is because there are very few options in this area. I've been playing around trying to find the perfect solution for a number of years and really haven't run across anything that works better for me that what I currently use Calibre on the Mac, CC on the iDevice and Marvin as a reader. The real issue is that Calibre truly dominates the server market, so it becomes a question of writing plug ins to Calibre on the server side and libraries/reader apps on the iDevice side that communicates with those plug ins.
It's really a chicken and egg questions. The big three (Apple, Amazon and Kobo) have no incentive to support Calibre plug-ins since they want tie you into their infrastructure. Each is more interested in selling you books than providing a robust library management system. The smaller reading apps (Marvin and MapleReader are the two main ones here, but there are others) seem to be one man shops. Now that CC is out there and gives 90% of what most who want an on device library app, there just isn't any real incentive to go the rest of the way. As I pointed out earlier, the market for this is so small, anyone who makes the effort to write a reading app does it more as a labor of love rather than as a money making venture. Unless someone writes a new app designed specific as a reader/library app and who goes the extra distance to support two way syncing with Calibre, what you see is what you have to work with. The issue with file sharing is that you really can't sync that way with Apple's security model (the new security model is what broke the Marvin plugin). I think that you need to write a calibre plugin that syncs up wirelessly to make it work. It's certainly doable, but you need to find someone who is willing to put the time and effort into doing it. No idea about the other path. I suppose that in theory, you could write an app designed to work with a cloud solution that reads and writes to the calibre database files. You would need to coordinate that with Calibre's developer and I don't know how keen he is to allow that approach rather than stick to the plug-in model that Calibre normally uses. |
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If you have modified the metadata of some books in Calibre after downloading them to MapleRead, you can easily transfer the metadata from Calibre to MapleRead, if you select "Overwrite Metadata" instead of "Skip Book". It'll just take doing an experiment on one book to confirm that this is indeed the case. |
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I've knocked up a script to sync Calibre to KyBook 2 here: https://github.com/karlic/calibre_to_kybook2.
KyBook 3 can bulk download from Calibre's OPDS. You could press the author for wireless device syncing here https://github.com/kolyvan/kybook/issues/91 |
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While I have a Kindle I use my iPad a lot more now. I’ve found One Drive to be outstanding for file management.
I set it all up on my Mac and downloaded the app for my iPhone and iPad and if you have an internet connection it works perfect. I found it easier to use than Apples setupwith icloud or files. |
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I use Dropbox to store my books. Calibre on my computer, catalog (and books) stored in my Dropbox folder. This way, every time a new book is added, it is synced to dropbox right away. Then, to get at my books, I usually access Dropbox online, and download to my reading device (I've chosen iphone) as required. I used to want everything on my phone but now that I store my books in my Dropbox, I don't need to. I don't use Calibre companion, its not needed for how I store my stuff.
If you are really opposed to using a cloud based solution, the only path, I suspect, is Calibre/Companion. But AFAIK there are no automatic sync options available. FYI I use Hyphen (epub only... I used Goodreader for PDF, should I need to read a pdf) as my reader and it uses dropbox to sync bookmarks etc. So I can read on any device which has Hyphen on it. I used to use Marvin in the same way but found bookmark sync unreliable. There's a free version which only allows one book at a time, it would give you an idea if it would suit. Its called Hyphen Lite. Marvin has a free version too, with similar restrictions. Other than that you might also want to look at Kybook and tiReader. Last edited by kyteflyer; 03-09-2019 at 02:56 PM. |
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