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Old 09-04-2018, 09:29 AM   #61
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Unless it was fabricated.
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Old 09-04-2018, 09:35 AM   #62
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Why do many lawyers defend guilty people that they know are guilty with the facts clearly against them? Because the prosecutor or plaintiff's lawyer is not always perfect, a mistake can dismiss the case or get an acquittal.
Because even the guilty have rights under the law, and have a right to make sure they treated fairly and within the law. That's aside from the whole "knowing they are guilty" until proved in court thing. Even if they PLEAD guilty, they deserve representation.

Unless, of course, they are accused of something un-PC, then they apparently have no rights, are to be presumed guilty, and deserve whatever abuse anyone wants to throw at them for the rest of their lives. Apparently.

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Those existing store layouts aren't too different from Amazon Books locations. Add a coffee shop on one end and you have a convenience store slash bookstore slash coffee shop.

That is a viable business in a relatively small footprint.
Which suggests Hudson might be waiting for B&N to crash and burn to make a move.
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if they had given him the severance package, he would have gone away relatively quietly

As it is, Parneros was right about how this looked

B&N done screwed up
...by trying to screw him.

Even if they hadn't paid him and said nothing he might have gone quietly to protect his reputation. Being fired by B&N is survivable; getting accused, even by implication, isn't.

They tried to get cute and left him no other option.
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...by trying to screw him.

Even if they hadn't paid him and said nothing he might have gone quietly to protect his reputation. Being fired by B&N is survivable; getting accused, even by implication, isn't.

They tried to get cute and left him no other option.
We don't know if he wasn't offered a severance package. He may have refused to admit guilt and forced B&N's hand. We also don't know how serious this alleged sexual harassment victim is prepared going forward. Multiple cases of "serious misconduct" have been verified. They may have given the execs an ultimatum. Get rid of him or we sue (or go to the press) all of you including Mr Parneros who would have been fired anyway.

While this wasn't handled smoothly on both sides no one will win.

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While this wasn't handled smoothly on both sides no one will win.
The vultures might do so.
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Which suggests Hudson might be waiting for B&N to crash and burn to make a move.
Nah, Hudson doesn't need B&N's dist network, and Hudson don't have a use for the 40k square foot stores.
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Old 09-04-2018, 06:00 PM   #68
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Nah, Hudson doesn't need B&N's dist network, and Hudson don't have a use for the 40k square foot stores.
But they could use the retail vacuum left in its wake, which is what I meant about waiting to make a move. Instead of moving now.

There would be a lot of chaos in the fall of B&N and "in chaos there is opportunity."
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We don't know if he wasn't offered a severance package. He may have refused to admit guilt and forced B&N's hand. We also don't know how serious this alleged sexual harassment victim is prepared going forward. Multiple cases of "serious misconduct" have been verified. They may have given the execs an ultimatum. Get rid of him or we sue (or go to the press) all of you including Mr Parneros who would have been fired anyway.

While this wasn't handled smoothly on both sides no one will win.
Possible.
But since he is suing for breach of contract to get the severance, wouldn't the B&N counter have said he refused the severance he now is suing to get?

As for winners, the lawyers on both sides should get plenty of billable hours.
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A reported case of sexual harassment by the CEO. How could they not fire him?

There is now zero tolerance for this type of alleged behavior.
The keyword is alleged. Suspend him until the allegations are proven or dis-proven but firing him and going public? Where I live, we still remember Rachel Marsden. Yep, that swimming coach was harassing and/or date-raping me over dinner while coaching a swim meet in another province. Not to mention several other cases where she was involved in claims of sexual harassment that were later shown to be dubious at best.
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Possible.
But since he is suing for breach of contract to get the severance, wouldn't the B&N counter have said he refused the severance he now is suing to get?

As for winners, the lawyers on both sides should get plenty of billable hours.
Who knows. He wants his $4 million.

I try not to form an opinion until all available facts are verified and presented. At the moment there are no facts just empty words.
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Who knows. He wants his $4 million.

I try not to form an opinion until all available facts are verified and presented. At the moment there are no facts just empty words.
In the business world empty words move stocks and markets. Which is why silence is so valuable and NDAs so common.
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I don't imagine the results of the due diligence done by the almost buyer would be pretty!
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But they could use the retail vacuum left in its wake, which is what I meant about waiting to make a move. Instead of moving now.

There would be a lot of chaos in the fall of B&N and "in chaos there is opportunity."
Ah, okay, I thought you meant "make a move on B&N's corpse".

Waiting for the vacuum makes more sense, yes.
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Ah, okay, I thought you meant "make a move on B&N's corpse".

Waiting for the vacuum makes more sense, yes.
By the time they're done bleeding the company there may not be enough of a corpse to move on.

This is a bit old but telling:

https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/...d-survive.aspx

When dividends are 410% of free cash flow...
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