lack of syncronization and loss of cursor positon

Genesis · 04-25-2012, 03:59 PM

sigil never puts the cursor in the proper place when switching views; as soon as I activate code view window, cursor jumps to an unexpected location.

When I am proofreading, every time I leave Sigil (dual monitors, Finereader or Scan viewer on other monitor) or switch between book and code views, I am constantly having to reposition cursor, (usually having to scroll to where I was)... In some cases, Book view jumps to start or end of epub!

In addition, when i am scrolling in either view, the other view remains STATIC.
They do not scroll in sync..

I Edit in Code View.

Is there some setting I've yet to find to stop these behaviours?

theducks · 04-25-2012, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genesis

sigil never puts the cursor in the proper place when switching views; as soon as I activate code view window, cursor jumps to an unexpected location.

When I am proofreading, every time I leave Sigil (dual monitors, Finereader or Scan viewer on other monitor) or switch between book and code views, I am constantly having to reposition cursor, (usually having to scroll to where I was)... In some cases, Book view jumps to start or end of epub!

In addition, when i am scrolling in either view, the other view remains STATIC.
They do not scroll in sync..

I Edit in Code View.

Is there some setting I've yet to find to stop these behaviours?

No setting.
Usually it syncs CLOSE to the insert point.

Click before switching

Genesis · 04-26-2012, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

No setting.
Usually it syncs CLOSE to the insert point.

Click before switching

I'm not sure which problem you suggest this solves.. Close to me would be within a line or two---not top of one view to bottom of other ( or worse, not IN other view at all) Clicking a view to activate, always MOVES the cursor away from it's last position.

I've worked more than few ePUBs (see [demonoid. link deleted] and this need to constantly reposition cursor back to where I was while I'm proofreading and editing ...is very aggravating..

If the views scrolled in sync, it would solve 1/2 the problem..
The rest of the problem might be a multi-monitor issue..

bfollowell · 04-26-2012, 09:12 AM

I have to admit, I've always noticed this and found it highly frustrating. Just my two cents.

Serpentine · 04-26-2012, 09:46 AM

Just make sure that you've clicked inside of a paragraph before switching, I've had a few books which were made exclusively of divs, that seemed to cause it to just jump to the top of the file when swapping view.

theducks · 04-26-2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Serpentine

Just make sure that you've clicked inside of a paragraph before switching, I've had a few books which were made exclusively of divs, that seemed to cause it to just jump to the top of the file when swapping view.

Exactly

crutledge · 04-26-2012, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genesis

sigil never puts the cursor in the proper place when switching views; as soon as I activate code view window, cursor jumps to an unexpected location.

When I am proofreading, every time I leave Sigil (dual monitors, Finereader or Scan viewer on other monitor) or switch between book and code views, I am constantly having to reposition cursor, (usually having to scroll to where I was)... In some cases, Book view jumps to start or end of epub!

In addition, when i am scrolling in either view, the other view remains STATIC.
They do not scroll in sync..

I Edit in Code View.

Is there some setting I've yet to find to stop these behaviours?

I have mentiond this same problem before. I use a Clip manage and when I leave the CV to pickup a clip into the win clipboard the CV cursor will jump to the beginning of the file. When I re-find the position, the clip inserts two lines before the cursor position. Perhaps I just don't hold my tongue in the right position.

I'm hoping that the ckEditor will cure this. Every thing works fine with Amaya which I think uses ckEditor. Amaya is referenced in the ckEditor Win zip file.

meme · 04-26-2012, 01:04 PM

Syncing of the cursor/caret position is, as you've gathered, difficult to get right

0.5.3 fixed quite a number of issues with this, but more obviously remain.

CKEditor by itself won't fix the issues, though it might help. It wouldn't help if you are switching out of CV to another program and back - that's strictly CV, sort of. Figuring out where the caret is between the two views is not straightforward - especially when text is added/removed, etc.

In any case, the issue of how to handle syncing, and whether to sync at all is still open. A lot has changed in the underlying code in Sigil for handling data and its not quite at the point where this can be looked at to see what can be done.

user_none · 04-26-2012, 09:18 PM

Cursor syncing is gone, dead and won't be coming back.

Perkin · 04-27-2012, 03:59 AM

My condolences to it's family

crutledge · 04-27-2012, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by user_none

Cursor syncing is gone, dead and won't be coming back.

Oh Joy

theducks · 04-27-2012, 09:46 AM

I had gotten used to it not being reliable in any case. So no great loss

Genesis · 04-27-2012, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meme

Syncing of the cursor/caret position is, as you've gathered, difficult to get right

0.5.3 fixed quite a number of issues with this, but more obviously remain.

CKEditor by itself won't fix the issues, though it might help. It wouldn't help if you are switching out of CV to another program and back - that's strictly CV, sort of. Figuring out where the caret is between the two views is not straightforward - especially when text is added/removed, etc.

ckeditor?
being stuck with only one viable ePUb editor , i feel held ransom, especcialy considerings certain ppl's posted attitudes (not you).. Perhaps.. if this project was was Open Source, someone could step in with solutions , instead of declarations...

oh wait...

Toxaris · 04-27-2012, 12:25 PM

Yes, ckeditor. John (and I think also meme) are working on replacing the bookview editor by ckeditor. This due to issues with Qt-framwork for those fields.

meme · 04-27-2012, 12:56 PM

ckeditor.com is the web site for the software. Has quite a few new features than the old editor. I just get to test it after John did all the integration

It really is a completely separate editor to Code View, hence one of the reasons why syncing doesn't seem to be on the cards for the views.

04-25-2012, 03:59 PM	#1
Genesis Enthusiast Posts: 43 Karma: 314 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: Kobo Touch	lack of syncronization and loss of cursor positon sigil never puts the cursor in the proper place when switching views; as soon as I activate code view window, cursor jumps to an unexpected location. When I am proofreading, every time I leave Sigil (dual monitors, Finereader or Scan viewer on other monitor) or switch between book and code views, I am constantly having to reposition cursor, (usually having to scroll to where I was)... In some cases, Book view jumps to start or end of epub! In addition, when i am scrolling in either view, the other view remains STATIC. They do not scroll in sync.. I Edit in Code View. Is there some setting I've yet to find to stop these behaviours? Last edited by Genesis; 04-25-2012 at 04:06 PM.

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bfollowell Fanatic Posts: 541 Karma: 1152752 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Evansville, IN, USA Device: Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 Nook & Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5	I have to admit, I've always noticed this and found it highly frustrating. Just my two cents.

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Serpentine Evangelist Posts: 416 Karma: 1045911 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Device: Kindle 3	Just make sure that you've clicked inside of a paragraph before switching, I've had a few books which were made exclusively of divs, that seemed to cause it to just jump to the top of the file when swapping view.

04-26-2012, 01:04 PM	#8
meme Sigil developer Posts: 1,275 Karma: 1101600 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Device: Kindle PW, K4 NT, K3, Kobo Touch	Syncing of the cursor/caret position is, as you've gathered, difficult to get right 0.5.3 fixed quite a number of issues with this, but more obviously remain. CKEditor by itself won't fix the issues, though it might help. It wouldn't help if you are switching out of CV to another program and back - that's strictly CV, sort of. Figuring out where the caret is between the two views is not straightforward - especially when text is added/removed, etc. In any case, the issue of how to handle syncing, and whether to sync at all is still open. A lot has changed in the underlying code in Sigil for handling data and its not quite at the point where this can be looked at to see what can be done.

04-26-2012, 09:18 PM	#9
user_none Sigil & calibre developer Posts: 2,488 Karma: 1063785 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida, USA Device: Nook STR	Cursor syncing is gone, dead and won't be coming back.

04-27-2012, 03:59 AM	#10
Perkin Guru Posts: 655 Karma: 64171 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Kent, England, Sol 3, ZZ9 plural Z Alpha Device: Sony PRS-300, Kobo Aura HD, iPad (Marvin)	My condolences to it's family

04-27-2012, 09:46 AM	#12
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 29,800 Karma: 54830978 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	I had gotten used to it not being reliable in any case. So no great loss

04-27-2012, 12:25 PM	#14
Toxaris Wizard Posts: 4,520 Karma: 121692313 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Heemskerk, NL Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura	Yes, ckeditor. John (and I think also meme) are working on replacing the bookview editor by ckeditor. This due to issues with Qt-framwork for those fields.

04-27-2012, 12:56 PM	#15
meme Sigil developer Posts: 1,275 Karma: 1101600 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Device: Kindle PW, K4 NT, K3, Kobo Touch	ckeditor.com is the web site for the software. Has quite a few new features than the old editor. I just get to test it after John did all the integration It really is a completely separate editor to Code View, hence one of the reasons why syncing doesn't seem to be on the cards for the views.

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