Help please New Paperwhite 2 how to organise collections on a mac NOT Cloud

globalmark · 04-02-2014, 01:34 AM

Hi All

I have just bought a Paperwhite 2nd Gen , and want to Organise, some book collections , Yes i have seen can do manually on the Kindle but thats a Bit slow .
I have also seen that I can do in Calibre (i have for Mac ) and tried but - Do i have to Jail break the Kindle for that to work ? As brand new not sure want to jail break yet !
or
Is there any other way to organise the Collections easily and quickly - author , type etc
Different program - there is Kindle for Mac ? does that work well - dont have it but can get it

Any and all suggestions as 1st ebook reader .
Thanks all in advance
Mark

HarryT · 04-02-2014, 10:35 AM

Collections are cloud-based these days, so yes, you can organise your collections on Kindle for Mac, and those collections will then be available on the PW.

jscarbo · 04-02-2014, 11:08 AM

I use Calibre for PC, not Mac, but as far as I know the Mac version works the same way. If so, it will work perfectly with your Paperwhite and doesn't require that to jailbreak or modify your Kindle in any way.

I'm not a fan of Kindle collections or of any of Amazon's limited options for organizing and sorting my library and use Calibre exclusively for both Amazon and non-Amazon ebooks.

Once you've installed Calibre on your computer and configured it using their set up wizard, you need to decide whether you want to install the Apprentice Alf plug-ins. If so, you need to do it before adding books to your Cailbre library since the plug ins only work when adding books to the library, not on books previously added.

I set up user defined columns for genres, read/un-read, etc., and have hidden the preconfigured columns I don't use (ratings, etc). There are numerous forum posts, tutorials and articles that explain how to customize Calibre. You can find them with a Google search.

HarryT · 04-02-2014, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscarbo

I use Calibre for PC, not Mac, but as far as I know the Mac version works the same way. If so, it will work perfectly with your Paperwhite and doesn't require that to jailbreak or modify your Kindle in any way.

It does if you want to organise collections, which is the OP's specific request. Calibre can only work with collections on a jailbroken Kindle. That's why I suggested doing the collections on Kindle for Mac.

eschwartz · 04-02-2014, 01:24 PM

But, if you wish to use calibre to manage your collections, here is how:

Jailbreak your Kindle
Install MKK to authorize non-Amazon kindlets
Add the Collections Manager kindlet to your Kindle
Use the (Touch/PW1/PW2-friendly) Kindle Collections plugin for calibre found here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...postcount=1760

It only works on firmware =<5.4.2.1, see this thread to downgrade (if necessary): https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=235413

globalmark · 04-03-2014, 10:23 PM

Hi Guys

Thanks for all your replies , I have been using Calibre for mac for years , for my Ipad and other bits and pieces. So i guess I would have to Jailbreak to use that for Kindle -
Correct ?

I dont Use Cloud for anything - dont like idea my files flying round so only use Local HDD to back up etc .

Have already got Kindle 5.4.3 firmware updated ..

HarryT - do you mean I can organise stuff on a program called Kindle for mac ?
as i downloaded this but it does not see my kindle when plugged in (does not sync) and i dont see how to show the books on the Kindle ? - happy to delete all and re-add if necessary . if you know can you give me simple instructions as googles Kindle for mac but dont get much info on basic using ..

Thanks all
Mark

eschwartz · 04-03-2014, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by globalmark

Hi Guys

Thanks for all your replies , I have been using Calibre for mac for years , for my Ipad and other bits and pieces. So i guess I would have to Jailbreak to use that for Kindle -
Correct ?

That is the first step, so yes.

Quote:

I dont Use Cloud for anything - dont like idea my files flying round so only use Local HDD to back up etc .

Have already got Kindle 5.4.3 firmware updated ..

HarryT - do you mean I can organise stuff on a program called Kindle for mac ?
as i downloaded this but it does not see my kindle when plugged in (does not sync) and i dont see how to show the books on the Kindle ? - happy to delete all and re-add if necessary . if you know can you give me simple instructions as googles Kindle for mac but dont get much info on basic using ..

Thanks all
Mark

Kindle for Mac is a computer application for reading Kindle books -- like the smartphone apps. You can download your books with it, sort them into collections (by hand) and sync the collections from one kindle to the other.

globalmark · 04-04-2014, 02:12 AM

Hi mate

Thanks for that ,
Can I just add books previously downloaded to Kindle for mac (program) and manually organise then send to the kindle. And they are organised ?
If so that would be good enough for me .
Any idea how to do that ? As I plugged in kindle and nothing appears on kindle for mac program , and cannot see a add or import or anything on kindle for mac ?

Thanks Mark

eschwartz · 04-04-2014, 09:40 AM

Collections are synced through the cloud, not through the application. Not sure how Cloud Collections will handle it, but before that, at least, you will go to archive/cloud view on the device, click the menu and select the option Import Collections.

It will list all devices/apps that have/had collections and offer to download their collections data from the servers.

04-02-2014, 01:34 AM	#1
globalmark Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2nd Gen	Help please New Paperwhite 2 how to organise collections on a mac NOT Cloud Hi All I have just bought a Paperwhite 2nd Gen , and want to Organise, some book collections , Yes i have seen can do manually on the Kindle but thats a Bit slow . I have also seen that I can do in Calibre (i have for Mac ) and tried but - Do i have to Jail break the Kindle for that to work ? As brand new not sure want to jail break yet ! or Is there any other way to organise the Collections easily and quickly - author , type etc Different program - there is Kindle for Mac ? does that work well - dont have it but can get it Any and all suggestions as 1st ebook reader . Thanks all in advance Mark

04-02-2014, 01:24 PM	#5
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	But, if you wish to use calibre to manage your collections, here is how: Jailbreak your Kindle Install MKK to authorize non-Amazon kindlets Add the Collections Manager kindlet to your Kindle Use the (Touch/PW1/PW2-friendly) Kindle Collections plugin for calibre found here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...postcount=1760 It only works on firmware =<5.4.2.1, see this thread to downgrade (if necessary): https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=235413

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Collections are cloud-based these days, so yes, you can organise your collections on Kindle for Mac, and those collections will then be available on the PW.

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jscarbo Addict Posts: 220 Karma: 1075434 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Costa Rica Device: Kindle Voyage, Kindle PW2, Nook HD+, Nexus 7	I use Calibre for PC, not Mac, but as far as I know the Mac version works the same way. If so, it will work perfectly with your Paperwhite and doesn't require that to jailbreak or modify your Kindle in any way. I'm not a fan of Kindle collections or of any of Amazon's limited options for organizing and sorting my library and use Calibre exclusively for both Amazon and non-Amazon ebooks. Once you've installed Calibre on your computer and configured it using their set up wizard, you need to decide whether you want to install the Apprentice Alf plug-ins. If so, you need to do it before adding books to your Cailbre library since the plug ins only work when adding books to the library, not on books previously added. I set up user defined columns for genres, read/un-read, etc., and have hidden the preconfigured columns I don't use (ratings, etc). There are numerous forum posts, tutorials and articles that explain how to customize Calibre. You can find them with a Google search.

04-03-2014, 10:23 PM	#6
globalmark Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2nd Gen	Hi Guys Thanks for all your replies , I have been using Calibre for mac for years , for my Ipad and other bits and pieces. So i guess I would have to Jailbreak to use that for Kindle - Correct ? I dont Use Cloud for anything - dont like idea my files flying round so only use Local HDD to back up etc . Have already got Kindle 5.4.3 firmware updated .. HarryT - do you mean I can organise stuff on a program called Kindle for mac ? as i downloaded this but it does not see my kindle when plugged in (does not sync) and i dont see how to show the books on the Kindle ? - happy to delete all and re-add if necessary . if you know can you give me simple instructions as googles Kindle for mac but dont get much info on basic using .. Thanks all Mark

04-04-2014, 02:12 AM	#8
globalmark Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2nd Gen	Hi mate Thanks for that , Can I just add books previously downloaded to Kindle for mac (program) and manually organise then send to the kindle. And they are organised ? If so that would be good enough for me . Any idea how to do that ? As I plugged in kindle and nothing appears on kindle for mac program , and cannot see a add or import or anything on kindle for mac ? Thanks Mark

04-04-2014, 09:40 AM	#9
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Collections are synced through the cloud, not through the application. Not sure how Cloud Collections will handle it, but before that, at least, you will go to archive/cloud view on the device, click the menu and select the option Import Collections. It will list all devices/apps that have/had collections and offer to download their collections data from the servers.