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Old 09-24-2020, 03:00 PM   #76
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No - the USB-C port layout is for commercial purposes only.
OK, I'll bite. What is the commercial purpose?
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Old 09-24-2020, 03:40 PM   #77
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USB-C made me a nice sandwich today.
USB-C++ supports different classes of meals. You can also overload your own sauce.
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I take a USB-C vitamin supplement every day.
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Old 09-24-2020, 04:48 PM   #79
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This explains why you dislike USB C
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My 15" MacBook Pro happily takes 97W through USB C, and my Samsung T5 SSDs run considerably faster through USB C than USB A, and that's only 10Gbps vs. 5Gbps. I don't have any 20Gbps devices yet, or any Thuberbolt 3 devices like a SSD RAID array that can do 40Gbps through a USB C port with TB3 alternate mode.
Consider getting a laptop with native NVMe support. Rigging up enough (external!) SATA III grade drives in a RAID to hit 40 Gbps is more money than I'd care to throw away

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I never imagined I'd hear people argue that USB-A is better than USB-C. Yet here we are.

There might be arguments to continue using USB-A in the presence of USB-C. Those would mostly relate to cost to upgrade a computer or peripherals. If the older technology suits you needs, why pay to upgrade? I can certainly support that. But to argue that the old stuff is technologically superior is entertaining to read, to say the least. Sometimes older stuff is superior, especially if the change was made to reduce costs, but that's not the case with these USB ports. USB-C can do everything that USB-A can do, and a lot more. The opposite cannot be said.

Most of my stuff is USB-A by the way, I have only a few USB-C devices at the moment. That's because I do not feel the need to spend money to upgrade the old stuff quite yet, not because I think it's superior.
A harder to beat upside to USB-A is that it's more sturdy. I've never ruined a USB-A plug or jack over 20 years but I've already bent a USB-C plug. Hard to make something robust when it has to be so small and also rest unsupported in the middle. Should've made a normal-sized version for desktops and laptops

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Old 09-26-2020, 04:10 PM   #82
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I have enough fast storage in my laptop, externals are for backups and moving files between computers.

Don't think anybody makes a laptop with 4 NVMe slots. Not saying I need it, but if somebody does there are quad m.2 TB3 enclosures.
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Old 09-26-2020, 07:39 PM   #83
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USB-C on a PC monitor can potentially mean more fast DisplayPorts, nice to have in your multi-PC setup. It's PC master race stuff, really.
I expect most USB-C ports are crippled - like everything else - on most mobiles.
That makes them a nuisance that I need to buy adapters for, wasting my time without worthy benefit.

But at least they finally solve the problem of pluggage (at least at one end)
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Question, is using USB-C for video better then using a dedicated display with it's own video memory? Is USB-C faster and where does it get the ram for the video?
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My new cell phone has the C I LOVE it!! No trouble plugging in to the device. No eye strain looking to see which way to line up the port to! No problem find Cords! Dollar Tree had Tons ALL colors for $1 each!!! WOW
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Like which displays with dedicated video memory?
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NO! NO! NO! NO! Do not buy USB-C cords from any dollar store, They could be really badly made and cause you no end of trouble. Don't risk your hardware on these cheap cables.
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Like a video card with 4GB of video memory.
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Like a video card with 4GB of video memory.
USB C can be used as video output like an HDMI port on a laptop or a graphics card. It doesn't have any video RAM of it's own. It is a better quality port than VGA still on some laptops with higher supported resolutions and refresh rates. And depending on the setup this can be better than the HDMI port on the same device. My Mac Mini's HDMI port can only do 4K resolution at 60Hz while the displayport through USB C can do 5K.
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USB C can be used as video output like an HDMI port on a laptop or a graphics card. It doesn't have any video RAM of it's own. It is a better quality port than VGA still on some laptops with higher supported resolutions and refresh rates. And depending on the setup this can be better than the HDMI port on the same device. My Mac Mini's HDMI port can only do 4K resolution at 60Hz while the displayport through USB C can do 5K.
And using the USB-C port as a video port, you have to give up system RAM for the video. I prefer dedicated video RAM with a dedicated video chip.
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