Glo opinions about the glow

sunny1z · 01-15-2013, 09:44 AM

I own the Kobo Glo for a few days now.. and two problems occured.

I can only compare mine with a friends' ereader (a sony PRS-T2). His ereader didin't have any issues displaying the Harlan Coben ebook, without splitting the words wrong.. even though the problems were somehow hidden in the sourscode. He never experienced displaying the wrong cover in sleep mode.

I was wondering with these flaws over this short period... is this a good e-reader after all... or should I trade it in for another one... the sony? On the net you mostly read reviews of people complaining about the troubles with the touchscreen or that it blocks after a while....

So I care for your experienced opinions... since I have a 14 day trial period.

I just love the glowlight.. the main reason why I bought it.

Elfuente · 01-15-2013, 11:21 AM

I am using the KG now for about one month and I really would not buy it again, but don´t ask me which readers are better because I didn´t use any other.
I would go for a nook glowlight for the simple reason it uses android as OS and I could use the applications (ezpdf, Moon+ reader) I am used from the tablet.

simond · 01-15-2013, 11:58 AM

Have to admit, I moved from a PRS-T1 to a Glo and haven't regretted it at all, I've had a couple of badly formatted books but it turned out they displayed like that on other devices too.

Stoneguard · 01-15-2013, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simond

Have to admit, I moved from a PRS-T1 to a Glo and haven't regretted it at all, I've had a couple of badly formatted books but it turned out they displayed like that on other devices too.

^ THIS.

I also came from an PRS-T1. and i just love the Glo, both e-readers required a bit of messing around at some point to get a book to display correctly. but the Light is simply amazing. I also haven't had any problems with it.

ewphoenix123 · 01-15-2013, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simond

Have to admit, I moved from a PRS-T1 to a Glo and haven't regretted it at all, I've had a couple of badly formatted books but it turned out they displayed like that on other devices too.

Same here.

And the t2 is basically only a t1 with a few firmware updates and new buttons.

The wrong cover bug you experience was introduced with the latest firm 2.31, which is absolutely terrible.
If you are willing/able to invest a bit time in your glo, do a factory reset and upgrade it manually to 2.21, there are instructions on this forums on how to do it.
Perhabs add the plugin aswell, and you will have a very solid reader, that offers imo a much better reading experience then the sony.

meeera · 01-15-2013, 08:03 PM

Your issue with the Coben book was not a "flaw" in the reader, and it wasn't splitting the words "wrong". When you feed a reader a completely broken book, it's anyone's guess as to how it's going to render.

If you prefer the Sony, by all means get it! It's a decent enough reader, and you'll likely enjoy reading on it. I love my Glo (would just like the italics bug fixed...), but most of the ereaders about the place are more or less usable, and it's different strokes for different folks. I'd find it really hard to go back to an unlit reader, but it doesn't bother some.

sysKin · 01-15-2013, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meeera

Your issue with the Coben book was not a "flaw" in the reader, and it wasn't splitting the words "wrong". When you feed a reader a completely broken book, it's anyone's guess as to how it's going to render.

Was that the book with various tags? Because if yes, it *was* kobo splitting words wrong.
As much as html doesn't specify how to split words, is an inline html element and inline html elements are never a valid base on which to split. It *is* valid to have a portion of a word written in different font (imagine an emphasised letter) and boundaries of such font change are not sensible places for a newline.

In other words, while that book was silly, it was not invalid and there exists a perfectly logical way to render it, and what Kobo was doing was not it.

Unless you're referring to a different word split problem in which case I apologise for off-topic...

Danger · 01-15-2013, 10:04 PM

Love my Glo. Unfortunately I can't do a comparison as I've only ever owned Kobo ereaders.

meeera · 01-15-2013, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sysKin

Was that the book with various tags? Because if yes, it *was* kobo splitting words wrong.
As much as html doesn't specify how to split words, is an inline html element and inline html elements are never a valid base on which to split. It *is* valid to have a portion of a word written in different font (imagine an emphasised letter) and boundaries of such font change are not sensible places for a newline.

In other words, while that book was silly, it was not invalid [...]

With massive, massive caveats - I can't read Dutch at all and the book looks fine to me on my Glo, and the OP never responded to my question to tell me exactly where they were having the problem they were having - and I'm not remotely an epub guru - what I've read says that the tag doesn't exist in the epub/XHTML 1.1 standard. The epub book certainly didn't validate in Sigil. I'm quite happy to be wrong on any of this, which is why I suggested that he take his problem to the EPUB forum here for more informed help.

DNSB · 01-16-2013, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sysKin

Was that the book with various tags? Because if yes, it *was* kobo splitting words wrong.
As much as html doesn't specify how to split words, is an inline html element and inline html elements are never a valid base on which to split. It *is* valid to have a portion of a word written in different font (imagine an emphasised letter) and boundaries of such font change are not sensible places for a newline.

In other words, while that book was silly, it was not invalid and there exists a perfectly logical way to render it, and what Kobo was doing was not it.

Unless you're referring to a different word split problem in which case I apologise for off-topic...

Strictly speaking since most epubs I've seen use a xhtml11 doctype which is not all that different from a XHTML 1.0 Strict declaration, the tag is not supported. You should use CSS styling to obtain the same effects instead.

HTML5 does not support and in HTML 4.01, it is deprecated -- at least, that's what my HTML validator has to say.

Regards,
David

sysKin · 01-16-2013, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meeera

With massive, massive caveats

OK right, I actually didn't get a chance to see the epub and I'm not an expert either, so there might be more wrong coming up.

Quote:

what I've read says that the tag doesn't exist in the epub/XHTML 1.1 standard.

That might be true (is epub based on xhtml or html5 or neither?), however in html (don't know about epub) each unknown tag is defined to be considered an inline element too (equivalent to ). This is done for forward compatibility.

Quote:

The epub book certainly didn't validate in Sigil. I'm quite happy to be wrong on any of this, which is why I suggested that he take his problem to the EPUB forum here for more informed help.

I don't know a lot about epub either, so I'd like to agree

anandg46 · 01-16-2013, 01:31 AM

Have had the Glo for about 2 weeks and have not noticed a single problem.All my favourite books have been arranged in nice shelves-thanks to calibre- and I still have huge empty space in the main memory in spite of loading about 500-600 books. the original Kobo cover works beautifully and I have yet to recharge the Glo . I read about 1-2 hours daily. I am coming from Sony PRS-505.Have inserted 4GB card in the Glo but it is empty at present. I feel most of the problems enumerated here are possibly due to badly formatted ebooks than anything else. Just my two cents.

sunny1z · 01-16-2013, 02:04 AM

This was the exact problem.. and I can't figure out why it was messed up on my glow.. and someone else did not have any problem on their Kobo Glow device.
That's wat worries me a bit

stewacide · 01-16-2013, 02:06 AM

I'd consider my Glo flawless aside from the light not going low enough, making it impossible to read in bed without another light on. And I miss the quilted backing from the Touch.

Otherwise it's MUCH more stable (have never had to hard reset and I read a lot) and MUCH faster than my Touch. Text also looks better with the high-rez display, although it degrades more with each turn without a full refresh.

sunny1z · 01-16-2013, 02:10 AM

sorry forgot to quote Syskin
This was the exact problem.. and I can't figure out why it was messed up on my glow.. and someone else did not have any problem on their Kobo Glow device.
That's wat worries me a bit

Quote:

Originally Posted by sysKin

Was that the book with various tags? Because if yes, it *was* kobo splitting words wrong.
As much as html doesn't specify how to split words, is an inline html element and inline html elements are never a valid base on which to split. It *is* valid to have a portion of a word written in different font (imagine an emphasised letter) and boundaries of such font change are not sensible places for a newline.

In other words, while that book was silly, it was not invalid and there exists a perfectly logical way to render it, and what Kobo was doing was not it.

Unless you're referring to a different word split problem in which case I apologise for off-topic...

01-15-2013, 09:44 AM	#1
sunny1z Enthusiast Posts: 33 Karma: 4350 Join Date: Jan 2013 Device: Kobo Glo	opinions about the glow I own the Kobo Glo for a few days now.. and two problems occured. I can only compare mine with a friends' ereader (a sony PRS-T2). His ereader didin't have any issues displaying the Harlan Coben ebook, without splitting the words wrong.. even though the problems were somehow hidden in the sourscode. He never experienced displaying the wrong cover in sleep mode. I was wondering with these flaws over this short period... is this a good e-reader after all... or should I trade it in for another one... the sony? On the net you mostly read reviews of people complaining about the troubles with the touchscreen or that it blocks after a while.... So I care for your experienced opinions... since I have a 14 day trial period. I just love the glowlight.. the main reason why I bought it.

01-15-2013, 08:03 PM	#6
meeera Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,658 Karma: 66417824 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Libra 2, iPadMini4, iPad4, MBP; support other Kobo/Kindles	Your issue with the Coben book was not a "flaw" in the reader, and it wasn't splitting the words "wrong". When you feed a reader a completely broken book, it's anyone's guess as to how it's going to render. If you prefer the Sony, by all means get it! It's a decent enough reader, and you'll likely enjoy reading on it. I love my Glo (would just like the italics bug fixed...), but most of the ereaders about the place are more or less usable, and it's different strokes for different folks. I'd find it really hard to go back to an unlit reader, but it doesn't bother some. Last edited by meeera; 01-15-2013 at 08:06 PM.

01-16-2013, 02:06 AM	#14
stewacide Groupie Posts: 196 Karma: 1086780 Join Date: Jul 2012 Device: Kobo H2O Ed. 2, Glo HD, Glo, Touch	I'd consider my Glo flawless aside from the light not going low enough, making it impossible to read in bed without another light on. And I miss the quilted backing from the Touch. Otherwise it's MUCH more stable (have never had to hard reset and I read a lot) and MUCH faster than my Touch. Text also looks better with the high-rez display, although it degrades more with each turn without a full refresh. Last edited by stewacide; 01-16-2013 at 02:32 AM.

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01-15-2013, 11:21 AM	#2
Elfuente Enthusiast Posts: 27 Karma: 35180 Join Date: Dec 2012 Device: kobo glo	I am using the KG now for about one month and I really would not buy it again, but don´t ask me which readers are better because I didn´t use any other. I would go for a nook glowlight for the simple reason it uses android as OS and I could use the applications (ezpdf, Moon+ reader) I am used from the tablet.

01-15-2013, 11:58 AM	#3
simond Fanatic Posts: 532 Karma: 1062755 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, UK Device: Kobo Aura One, iPad, iPhone	Have to admit, I moved from a PRS-T1 to a Glo and haven't regretted it at all, I've had a couple of badly formatted books but it turned out they displayed like that on other devices too.

01-15-2013, 10:04 PM	#8
Danger Evangelist Posts: 490 Karma: 1665031 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Vancouver Island, Nanaimo Device: K2 (retired), Kobo Touch (passed to the wife), KGlo, Galaxy TabPro	Love my Glo. Unfortunately I can't do a comparison as I've only ever owned Kobo ereaders.

01-16-2013, 01:31 AM	#12
anandg46 Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2010 Device: None	Have had the Glo for about 2 weeks and have not noticed a single problem.All my favourite books have been arranged in nice shelves-thanks to calibre- and I still have huge empty space in the main memory in spite of loading about 500-600 books. the original Kobo cover works beautifully and I have yet to recharge the Glo . I read about 1-2 hours daily. I am coming from Sony PRS-505.Have inserted 4GB card in the Glo but it is empty at present. I feel most of the problems enumerated here are possibly due to badly formatted ebooks than anything else. Just my two cents.

01-16-2013, 02:04 AM	#13
sunny1z Enthusiast Posts: 33 Karma: 4350 Join Date: Jan 2013 Device: Kobo Glo	This was the exact problem.. and I can't figure out why it was messed up on my glow.. and someone else did not have any problem on their Kobo Glow device. That's wat worries me a bit

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