Multiple 'save to disc' templates?

[redscarlett]

I'm terrible when it comes to templates, plugboards, etc, so this might be a stupid question, but is it possible to have multiple 'save to disc' templates? I have four 'main' categories of ebooks, and I want them to be saved slightly differently (mainly different folder styles than different info in the names). I've been doing it manually, but it can take forever to get them saved in the right folders, so I was wondering if it was possible to do this via templates?

[theducks]

Originally Posted by redscarlett

I'm terrible when it comes to templates, plugboards, etc, so this might be a stupid question, but is it possible to have multiple 'save to disc' templates? I have four 'main' categories of ebooks, and I want them to be saved slightly differently (mainly different folder styles than different info in the names). I've been doing it manually, but it can take forever to get them saved in the right folders, so I was wondering if it was possible to do this via templates?

Yes. (At least for 2, it is. I have 2 significantly different file path patterns: On for series and another for non-series and have it switch if it sees series data.)

Please post inside [ code] tags, examples of those 4 you want (there is almost always more than 1 way to get it done ), and copies of the existing patterns that you use (you can copy from them from the history pulldown)

Also review the features of the Quick Preferences Plugin https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=118776, maybe it will help

[Adoby]

Sorry, wrong thread... Ooops!

[redscarlett]

Originally Posted by theducks

Yes. (At least for 2, it is. I have 2 significantly different file path patterns: On for series and another for non-series and have it switch if it sees series data.)

Please post inside [ code] tags, examples of those 4 you want (there is almost always more than 1 way to get it done ), and copies of the existing patterns that you use (you can copy from them from the history pulldown)

Also review the features of the Quick Preferences Plugin https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=118776, maybe it will help

Sorry for the late reply - I'm helping my Dad set up his new caravan! :S

Okay, the four I would like please are:

1.

{#genre}/{#category}/{series}/{title}{series_index:0>4.1f}{authors}

but i would like it to be that, if there is no series, then there is no 'series' sub-folder (if you understand me?)

2.

 {#genre}/{#sub_genre}/{title}{author}

3.

{#genre}/{#sub_genre}/{series}/{title}{series_index:0>4.1f}{authors}

Once more, using 'series' only if one exists.

...and I think that's it actually, so 3 instead of 4!

Thank you!

[theducks]

Originally Posted by redscarlett

Sorry for the late reply - I'm helping my Dad set up his new caravan! :S

Okay, the four I would like please are:

1.

{#genre}/{#category}/{series}/{title}{series_index:0>4.1f}{authors}

but i would like it to be that, if there is no series, then there is no 'series' sub-folder (if you understand me?)

2.

 {#genre}/{#sub_genre}/{title}{author}

3.

{#genre}/{#sub_genre}/{series}/{title}{series_index:0>4.1f}{authors}

Once more, using 'series' only if one exists.

...and I think that's it actually, so 3 instead of 4!

Thank you!

Should be doable, there are really only 2 conditions (#sub_genre and #category). (note: I only code the simple, conditional ones. Help will be along now they can see what you need)

The other is a conditional on series (see the Template language series examples)

[chaley]

Exactly how do you determine which template to use, and in which priority? If #category is not blank, use #1 no matter what is in #sub_genre? What do you do it both #category and sub_genre are blank? There really are no separators between the title, series indices, and authors?

[redscarlett]

Originally Posted by chaley

Exactly how do you determine which template to use, and in which priority? If #category is not blank, use #1 no matter what is in #sub_genre? What do you do it both #category and sub_genre are blank? There really are no separators between the title, series indices, and authors?

Sorry for the huge delay! Everything that could have gone wrong with my Dad's caravan this weekend didgo wrong!

There are 3 categories I tend to use, but #category is never blank. I could use #1 all the time, but I would prefer not to because I want different info available. Some of these ebooks are just study notes and the like, produced by my friends and I because we use them for university, so the distinction would be really useful to have.
#category and #sub_genre and always filled, so that isn't an issue.
And the examples I gave are just rough ones - I was on my sister's tablet at the time, and I don't know how hers works other than the basics. She's got a weird keyboard she's downloaded from somewhere. I would like separators though please!

[chaley]

The problem: before anyone can give you the multiple-path template, you must supply the templates and the precise rules for choosing between the templates. The rules can look only at the metadata for the book. The choice specifically cannot depend on human intervention, because the human isn't available inside the computer.

Thus, if you can tell me what metadata should generate which save template, then I can give you a master template that makes the choice. If the choice is made because you know the answer but can't give the rules, then abandon hope all ye who enter here.

[redscarlett]

Originally Posted by chaley

The problem: before anyone can give you the multiple-path template, you must supply the templates and the precise rules for choosing between the templates. The rules can look only at the metadata for the book. The choice specifically cannot depend on human intervention, because the human isn't available inside the computer.

Thus, if you can tell me what metadata should generate which save template, then I can give you a master template that makes the choice. If the choice is made because you know the answer but can't give the rules, then abandon hope all ye who enter here.

Sorry - I'm new to this, so I wasn't sure what to/what not to supply.

I'll try and make it clearer. After a think, in an ideal world (because I don't know what is possible) I would please like...

1. Folders to go: #category, which contains the #sub_category folders, in which are the corresponding series. If no series exists, then the ebooks should just be in their #sub_category folder.
The title of the ebooks to be title - series number (to 2 decimal places) - author ,if the ebook is within a series. If it isn't part of a series, then just title-author.

2. Folders: #genre, to contain the #sub_genre folders.
Title of ebook: title-author.

3. Folders: #genre, to contain the #sub_genre folders, each of which contains the relevant 'series' folders.
Title: title-series number to 2 decimal places-author

Is that better? Or do I need to put anything else? I suppose 2. and 3. are the same thing, only one is for ebooks in a series and the other is for single ebooks.

Thank you

[chaley]

How do you choose between #1 and #2/3? Is it the value in #category? If so, them could you give some examples? Or is it the value of some other metadata field?

[redscarlett]

Originally Posted by chaley

How do you choose between #1 and #2/3? Is it the value in #category? If so, them could you give some examples? Or is it the value of some other metadata field?

2. and 3. are for fiction and non-fiction - so essentially normal e-books. An example would be #genre = Romance and #sub_genre = Paranormal (or historical, steampunk, etc).

The ebooks for 1., however, are those for my post-grad. course e.g. #category = Tort Law and #sub_category = Medical Negligence (or general negligence, nuisances, etc). I really want them keeping separately from my leisure-time reading, or I'll get distracted and then end up reading rather than studying.

Thank you, hope this answers your questions

[chaley]

Taking a guess, the template would look something like

program: 
	c = field('#category');
	template1 = template('{#category}/{#sub_category}/{series}/{title}{series_index:0>4.1f}{authors}'), '');
	template2 = template('{#genre}/{#sub_genre}/{series}/{title}{series_index:0>4.1f}{authors}');
	first_non_empty(
		strcmp(c, 'Tort Law', '',  template1, ''),
		strcmp(c, "some other post grad category", '', template1, ''),
		template2
	)

The first template would be chosen if the category equals "Tort Law" or "some other post grad category". You would put a line into the template for each possible post-grad category.

For all the templates, if a value does not exist, it is replaced with nothing. This could leave two slashes adjacent to one another, which will be replaced by the template processor with one slash. Thus, when using template two when there isn't a series, without you doing anything the template effectively becomes

template('{#genre}/{#sub_genre}/title}{authors}');

Best I can do with the information I have.

[redscarlett]

Originally Posted by chaley

Taking a guess, the template would look something like

program: 
	c = field('#category');
	template1 = template('{#category}/{#sub_category}/{series}/{title}{series_index:0>4.1f}{authors}'), '');
	template2 = template('{#genre}/{#sub_genre}/{series}/{title}{series_index:0>4.1f}{authors}');
	first_non_empty(
		strcmp(c, 'Tort Law', '',  template1, ''),
		strcmp(c, "some other post grad category", '', template1, ''),
		template2
	)

The first template would be chosen if the category equals "Tort Law" or "some other post grad category". You would put a line into the template for each possible post-grad category.

For all the templates, if a value does not exist, it is replaced with nothing. This could leave two slashes adjacent to one another, which will be replaced by the template processor with one slash. Thus, when using template two when there isn't a series, without you doing anything the template effectively becomes

template('{#genre}/{#sub_genre}/title}{authors}');

Best I can do with the information I have.

Thank you!! That's brilliant