BOOX Note+ (New Device)

[orpheus2011]

Originally Posted by MadAstra

I assume the glass screen would also solve the stylus scratching screen problems of the Note. That alone is a worthy upgrade.

I wouldn't be sure about that. I have read of people scratching their iPad screens after using the Apple Pencil without a screen protector. I am sure that the same would apply for the Note +, if used without a protector.

[whopper]

Originally Posted by mdp

Unless, of course, there now exists a glare-proof, reflection-free glass.

I don't use them as reading devices but I've been using tablet-pcs since 15 years ago to take notes and I've seen plastics that not even a truck could scratch, and mate screen protectors that let the latest tabletpcs that have glass with less reflections than the max 2.

It can be done and if someone refuses to use a retroiluminated tablet to take notes, this would be a neat upgrade.

Said that, the writing experience of the onyx hardware is so limited that I wouldn't recommend anyone to use the device for it. Just buy a surface go or any other 2 in 1 device and let evernote do the things the way they should be instead of using a crippled limited device, because, let's be honest, unless they fix the lag, and they are not going to do it, it's not worth as a notetaking. The note app is just too simplistic.

[mdp]

Originally Posted by DaleDe

Most devices from E Ink have glass screens on the front of the device and work very well.

Sorry - as in, for the effect, "take, say, a Max2 and place a slab of glass on the display"? Like the defunct Onyx E43?
Because this is what I am getting, "visible glass on top", not "place glass somewhere in the structure there where is not visible".
Glass on the front - as in almost all of the recent "telephones" I have seen - conflicts with reading purposes.

[mdp]

Originally Posted by whopper

I don't use them as reading devices but I've been using tablet-pcs since 15 years ago to take notes and I've seen plastics that not even a truck could scratch, and mate screen protectors that let the latest tabletpcs that have glass with less reflections than the max 2

So, the point would be "You do not need to place a glass armor on the screen, just put high quality plastics", and it makes no sense to ship glass to have it covered with a matte protecting film, right? That is my point.

[lems1995]

Originally Posted by mdp

No buttons. Temperature controlled?

EDIT: Oops, sorry, I see it is a Note upgrade. Well, it could have been updgraded with buttons...

Have/had any e-ink device?

[keithwwalker]

The problem with the Note is that the screen is not totally flat (mine has a dimple brand new - doesn't affect use), so you can not put the newer armored glass protectors on.

[ilyats]

Originally Posted by keithwwalker

The problem with the Note is that the screen is not totally flat (mine has a dimple brand new - doesn't affect use), so you can not put the newer armored glass protectors on.

Do you need screen protector with e-reader? I have ordered one for Kobo Aura One hoping it would match my Boyue Likebook Plus, but now I read some bloggers saying you shouldn't use one with e-readers, case gives much protection and protector only makes picture less clear and adds glare.

[Question Mark]

Originally Posted by ilyats

Do you need screen protector with e-reader? I have ordered one for Kobo Aura One hoping it would match my Boyue Likebook Plus, but now I read some bloggers saying you shouldn't use one with e-readers, case gives much protection and protector only makes picture less clear and adds glare.

With ereaders like the Kobo Aura One, I can't see that there would be much need for a screen protector because they are primarily designed for reading. On such ereaders, you are really just swiping or tapping the screen and so they are unlikely to get scratched. I certainly have not put a screen protector on my KA1.

On devices such as the Onyx Note which can be used with a stylus, a screen protector might make very good sense as writing/drawing with the stylus can scratch the screen.

However, I would use and do use a case with both my Onyx Note and my KA1. The case provides a different kind of protection than a screen protector. A screen protector mainly provides for protection against things such as scratches. A case provides protection against other things pressing up against the screen such as when you put it in a backpack with a bunch of other items.

[mdp]

Originally Posted by lems1995

Have/had any e-ink device?

Be clearer, Lems. I do not understand what you intend or where you want to go.
If you meant "E-ink devices are normally controlled through a capacitive screen", the reply would be "Adding hardware buttons offers a higher degree of freedom, which is an absolute value; limited control severely limits usability because it hinders control".

[lems1995]

Originally Posted by mdp

Be clearer, Lems. I do not understand what you intend or where you want to go.
If you meant "E-ink devices are normally controlled through a capacitive screen", the reply would be "Adding hardware buttons offers a higher degree of freedom, which is an absolute value; limited control severely limits usability because it hinders control".

Thank you, i agree that physical buttons is better than capacitive touch screen which add an extra layer to the screen i prefer IR touch screen imho.
My question is about the software weak point of e-reader devices Onyx Boox and Boyue, except Sony devices, no specialist describe software but prefer hardware side , may be it's easer?.

[mdp]

Originally Posted by lems1995

Thank you, i agree that physical buttons is better than capacitive touch screen which add an extra layer to the screen i prefer IR touch screen imho

My point is actually that the producer should enable as many options as possible. The user will use the option he needs on the spot: if touch, touch it will be, if button, button it will be, if shouting, shouting it will be. Sometimes one is more practical, sometimes another.
In scrolling (web browsing, document browsing), for example, swipe gestures can be severely inaccurate, painful to use.

Originally Posted by lems1995

My question is about the software weak point of e-reader devices Onyx Boox and Boyue, except Sony devices, no specialist describe software but prefer hardware side , may be it's easer?.

Software can always be fixed, to tweak hardware after it is shipped is at least tricky.
If you want optimal software, for effectiveness, lobby on a community of developers, instead of relaying on the limited powers (and sometimes, Onyx not intended, intentions) of one Company.
I have had Sony and its software was severely lacking. It could not even be fixed by modding.

[mdp]

Originally Posted by DaleDe

Most devices from E Ink have glass screens on the front of the device and work very well

As I first replied, I kept myself on a matter of theory - trusting your words on generic terms.
Today, I saw devices that seemed to keep an E-Ink screen under glass, I am not completely sure since they had a film on it, but the pinch seemed to confirm this new, unqualifiable defeat of common sense. When I say that I saw such things, it is an abstraction: in fact, I saw my face, distorted. I looked in the proximity, there were other E-Ink displays, not a single hint of any glare or reflection. Perfection. I looked again at those satanic critters, dumb monsters on display, and could barely see them behind the fragments of my face and the distortion of the world in the background.
So yes, I may reckon that somebody, for a brand I always matched with perversion, thought it a """good""", if perverted (awareness allowed), idea to put a glass in front of an E-Ink display in something sold as a reader. Little surprise.
I am sure they may """work very well""", for some non-intellectual use I certainly cannot suspect. I mean, at work I was requested by a team «Have us equipped with the coolest thinnest blackest glossiest designerest laptops around: as part of the mission, we have to show them off.» - I have seen things. I have seen more than Rutger Hauer.

For what Onyx is concerned: if some people have note-taking as a foremost aim, now they can use a larger part of Mohs scale. Some will stick to charcoal - their choice. But there comes the time in which one may want to do something else, maybe read them on that very screen they scribbled on. And one will be supposed to want to place a matte film on it. And without such a need for a bloodshed, it will be supposed to be apparent that distributing a device with a high quality, scratch resistant matte finishing for the screen would have been the thing to do in the first place.

[KindleMeAndrey]

Has anyone tried the Note+?

Does the glass rise high above the eink screen, and is there a noticeable gap between the pen point and the writing itself if you look from an angle?

I'm wondering if the glass will make writing less accurate because of this. I'm pretty happy with my Note, but there is a bit of flex to the screen that I'm not too crazy about.

[orpheus2011]

Originally Posted by KindleMeAndrey

Has anyone tried the Note+?

Does the glass rise high above the eink screen, and is there a noticeable gap between the pen point and the writing itself if you look from an angle?

I'm wondering if the glass will make writing less accurate because of this. I'm pretty happy with my Note, but there is a bit of flex to the screen that I'm not too crazy about.

I have both an iPad Pro I use the Pencil with, and the original Boox Note. The writing experience is much better on the Note, because the screen is flexible, and 'gives way' like normal paper when writing on it. The flex positively contributes to this. The writing on glass experience of the iPad, which I assume will be mostly replicated on the new Boox Note, is not a natural one. The glass will remain stiff, and writing on it will have no paper-like feedback.

[KindleMeAndrey]

That's an interesting point. Thanks for sharing.