01-15-2020, 03:42 PM | #1 |
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Best custom dictionary? (English)
I noticed that the dictionary on Kindles are far superior to the Kobo one. I noticed that a lot of dictionaries are floating around the forum, but does anyone know which is the most comprehensive?
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01-19-2020, 04:37 AM | #2 |
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Look at the thread "index of custom dictionaries".
In my opinion, the most comprehensive English dictionary available there is Owl's (some 56 Mo). The best for syntax and thesaurus is Longman's, which I add to my kobo by disguising it as a dictionary for one of the languages I don't use. |
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01-19-2020, 05:22 AM | #3 |
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The most comprehensive commercial English dictionary is the Oxford English Dictionary (2nd edition is 20 volumes and updating it to the 3rd edition started in 1994 and has a deadline to finish in 2037) and that's what Kindle uses (by default, I think?).
In terms of free dictionaries, the GCIDE takes the copyright free Webster's 1912 dictionary as its base and uses crowdsourcing and adds various Wordnet entries to modernize it a bit. A recent copy of the English Wiktionary would have more entries and more modern entries, though (although some would debate the quality of those definitions). So it depends on your definition of comprehensive. Personally, I use a stylized version of Wordnet 3.1 combined with GCIDE definitions as my primary English lookup dictionary. It covers most of what I read, the Wordnet-specific definitions are concise but descriptive enough (with the Websters 1912/GCIDE entries where available providing more context if I need it), and some of the Wordnet entries list synonyms, antonyms and hypernyms which is something some commercial dictionaries don't even do. You could also use penelope to combine a bunch of dictionaries to create your own custom one (for example, you could merge an English dictionary of your choice with a thesaurus to mimic what Wordnet offers, etc.). So there are lots of options. Last edited by rtiangha; 01-19-2020 at 06:09 PM. |
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01-19-2020, 08:40 AM | #5 |
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try this one-
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...&postcount=567 Please share if you find a better one |
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01-19-2020, 12:06 PM | #6 | |
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I also combined it all with Moby Thesaurus II because I really wanted some kind of thesaurus to do look ups with but didn't want to make a new custom dictionary entry just for that (in order to keep the dictionary menu as lean as possible). As penelope presents results in the order you merge definitions in, the order I used is Wordnet 3.1, GCIDE, Moby Thesaurus (that way, I get the concise Wordnet 3.1 definition first, can scroll backwards to get the Thesaurus entry, or scroll forwards to get the more detailed GCIDE entry if I want it). And all done with only free dictionaries too. To me, that's comprehensive enough. Last edited by rtiangha; 01-19-2020 at 06:11 PM. |
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01-21-2020, 11:24 PM | #7 |
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Would you consider sharing your version?
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01-22-2020, 12:19 AM | #8 |
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Better yet, you can build it yourself!
Grab these versions of Wordnet 3.1, GCIDE 0.52 and Moby Thesaurus II and run: Code:
penelope -i stardict-wordnet3.1-custom.zip,stardict-en-gcide-0.52.zip,stardict-Moby_Thesaurus-2.4.2.zip -j stardict -f en -t en --ignore-case --merge-definitions --sort-by-headword --sort-before --sort-after --merge-separator "<br /><br /><hr /><br /><br />" -p kobo -o dicthtml Last edited by rtiangha; 01-22-2020 at 12:24 AM. |
01-22-2020, 12:44 AM | #9 |
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01-22-2020, 03:05 AM | #10 | |
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I just realized that I uploaded the wrong version of Moby Thesaurus; it's the stock version and not the one I ended up using in my final version. I basically did some very minor edits to bold the number of entries and italicize the headword. I've updated the file (link remains the same) so if you think the stock thesaurus looks a little boring, try re-downloading the file and try again (It's not that much better, but at least it looks different). And the GCIDE version in my build directory is slightly newer too, so in case I did run --flatten-synonyms on that dictionary before merging, I also uploaded that version too (same link); I'm not sure if it matters though (from what I can tell, flattening synonyms first may be needed because penelope doesn't migrate stardict tagged synonyms (i.e. <sym>) to Kobo dictionary synonym format (i.e. <var>) at all, so you may miss out on some definitions when searching if they're tagged as synonyms to a different definition as Kobo won't search them out and will only return strict headword definitions. That said, I can't remember if that GCIDE dictionary actually implements tagged synonym functionality). I also think it all looks better with a sans-serif font rather than the stock Georgia font (I used the "Dictionary text font-family/font-size/line-height" libnickel patch to replace Georgia with generic sans-serif (which currently defaults to Avenir Next) and shrunk the font to 23px and decreased the line spacing to 1.30em, which looks fine on my Glo HD but your miliage may vary depending on your screen size and resolution), but it's up to you. Last edited by rtiangha; 01-22-2020 at 05:27 AM. |
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I guess I'll just continue to use the WordNet 2.0 file I found (I really like the formatting, and so far seems fairly comprehensive ) along with Owl's large dictionary (thank you Owl!) EDIT: until geek1011 finishes dictutil, ofc |
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01-23-2020, 05:21 AM | #13 | |
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The Kindle doesn't use the full OED, it has (IIRC) the New Oxford American Dictionary. |
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