Cybook doesn't search in Oxford dictionaries

megaman · 10-26-2008, 11:27 AM

Hello all,

I've got a cybook gen 3 updated with the latest firmware. Everything seems to be fine but I have a problem with oxford dictionaries. When I try to search with the link provided at the beginning of the dictionary in order to search for a word, the cybook displays a window that says that such thing is unavailable in the current version (don't know if it refers to the version of firmware or what, it doesn't specify). This way, dictionaries in my cybook are totally useless, for in order to find a word you would have to flip page by page (one by one) or try to guess what the page number that word is located in is and use the "go to..." function. Can anyone tell me what the problem is and how to solve it (if possible)?

Thanks all.

pilotbob · 10-26-2008, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by megaman

Can anyone tell me what the problem is and how to solve it (if possible)?

Thanks all.

I don't think there is a problem. The UI is designed to look up a word from a book you are reading... not really designed to look up as a reference book.

BOb

Pulp · 10-26-2008, 11:32 AM

This is not the way it works at the moment.

The way it is supposed to work is going into lookup-mode while reading an english book, directly selecting the word you do not know, being served with the translation and then going back to the book

Edit: Eek, to slow

HarryT · 10-26-2008, 11:33 AM

Bob is absolutely correct. To look up a word in the book you're reading, press the menu button, select "Lookup" from the menu, highlight the word you want to look up the meaning of, and press <Enter>. The "Search" function of the dictionary itself is not currently supported on the Gen3 (but it works very well on the Windows Desktop Mobi Reader).

megaman · 10-26-2008, 11:41 AM

Excuse me, for I have not explained the issue as clearly as it should. I bought the Oxford dictionary of chemistry, in which you can find from A to Z definitions with drawings and such (sort of like an encyclopedia). Let's say that I wanted to find the word "reduction" for instance to see the description, examples, drawings,etc. The only thing I can do is flip page by page until I get to such word entry, which is extremely time wasting, since the dictionary is very large. This is why this Oxford dictionary of chemistry has an index page with three entries:

1) Look up a word or term
2) Look up an abbreviation
3) Look up a person

Whichever I choose I get a "Indexes not supported in this version" window from my cybook in response. This way, the dictionary is 100% USELESS, since there's no practical way to browse in order to find the words you need! Am I right?

Thanks.

HarryT · 10-26-2008, 11:47 AM

That is correct.

The Gen3 only allows you to look up the dictionary definition of a word in the book that you're currently reading. It does not allow you to do a search in the dictionary itself.

ie if you had a book with the word "reduction" in it, you could look up the definition of that word in your dictionary. What you can't (currently) do is search for the word "reduction" in the dictionary itself.

One word-around (read "horrible hack") would be to create a text file containing all the terms in the dictionary, and then do a "lookup" from that.

megaman · 10-26-2008, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

That is correct.

The Gen3 only allows you to look up the dictionary definition of a word in the book that you're currently reading. It does not allow you to do a search in the dictionary itself.

ie if you had a book with the word "reduction" in it, you could look up the definition of that word in your dictionary. What you can't (currently) do is search for the word "reduction" in the dictionary itself.

One word-around (read "horrible hack") would be to create a text file containing all the terms in the dictionary, and then do a "lookup" from that.

I have just tried that and that doesn't work anyway. Maybe it is because the Oxford English language (and not the chemistry one) dictionary that came with my cybook (only letter L) is set by default for the "look up" function or something like that. Can that be changed at least to made it work with the chemistry dictionary?

HarryT · 10-26-2008, 12:00 PM

It sounds as if the chemistry dictionary isn't being recognised by Mobi as a "dictionary" - ie something to do lookups in. It should work fine having multiple dictionaries installed. Do you have it installed in the "eBooks" folder? Dictionaries don't work if you put them in a sub-folder.

megaman · 10-26-2008, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

It sounds as if the chemistry dictionary isn't being recognised by Mobi as a "dictionary" - ie something to do lookups in. It should work fine having multiple dictionaries installed. Do you have it installed in the "eBooks" folder? Dictionaries don't work if you put them in a sub-folder.

Yeah, I put it in the eBooks folder. I don't know if this is what you meant by "installed"... I just put it there as I put any other book --> i.e. copy&paste

HarryT · 10-26-2008, 12:08 PM

That's all you should have to do.

I'm out of ideas, I'm afraid. All I can suggest is that you contain Bookeen and ask their advice. In the mean time, you can do searches on the Windows Desktop version of the MobiPocket Reader (if you're a Windows user).

wallcraft · 10-26-2008, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by megaman

When I try to search with the link provided at the beginning of the dictionary in order to search for a word, the cybook displays a window that says that such thing is unavailable in the current version

If mobipocket.com was up I could point you to the page listing the differences between their original reader and their Java-based reader. The latter is the basis for the Cybook software and is significantly less capable, particularly in features that could be used in reference works. So, if a reference work takes advantage of advanced MOBI features it probably does not work on EInk devices with MOBI or on Blackberrys. There is one feature that is part of the Java reference software, but is not implemented on some EInk devices. If I remember right it is to do with indexing, and I think this may be exactly what you are experiencing.

The bottom line is that if you bought the ebooks for your Cybook, then the seller should refund your money.

Pulp · 10-26-2008, 02:14 PM

Also you have to make sure that the text-document you use to "lookup" the words has the same language defined as the dictionary. If the dictionaries propertie-dialog says language "en-en" you have to make sure the index-document is set to "en" aswell during creation - you cannot change the language in the windows-reader later on, cybook will ignore such changes.

wallcraft · 10-27-2008, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallcraft

If mobipocket.com was up I could point you to the page listing the differences between their original reader and their Java-based reader.

See Cross-platform feature support. Note the lack of "Indexing features" and "Programming" in the Java version.

GeoffC · 10-30-2008, 02:00 PM

Have you tried searching in Cambridge ....

10-26-2008, 11:27 AM	#1
megaman Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: cybok	Cybook doesn't search in Oxford dictionaries Hello all, I've got a cybook gen 3 updated with the latest firmware. Everything seems to be fine but I have a problem with oxford dictionaries. When I try to search with the link provided at the beginning of the dictionary in order to search for a word, the cybook displays a window that says that such thing is unavailable in the current version (don't know if it refers to the version of firmware or what, it doesn't specify). This way, dictionaries in my cybook are totally useless, for in order to find a word you would have to flip page by page (one by one) or try to guess what the page number that word is located in is and use the "go to..." function. Can anyone tell me what the problem is and how to solve it (if possible)? Thanks all.

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10-26-2008, 11:32 AM	#3
Pulp Palm Addict Posts: 477 Karma: 1001951 Join Date: Aug 2008 Device: Cybook Gen3 [512mb, FW: 1.5]	This is not the way it works at the moment. The way it is supposed to work is going into lookup-mode while reading an english book, directly selecting the word you do not know, being served with the translation and then going back to the book Edit: Eek, to slow

10-26-2008, 11:33 AM	#4
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Bob is absolutely correct. To look up a word in the book you're reading, press the menu button, select "Lookup" from the menu, highlight the word you want to look up the meaning of, and press <Enter>. The "Search" function of the dictionary itself is not currently supported on the Gen3 (but it works very well on the Windows Desktop Mobi Reader).

10-26-2008, 11:41 AM	#5
megaman Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: cybok	Excuse me, for I have not explained the issue as clearly as it should. I bought the Oxford dictionary of chemistry, in which you can find from A to Z definitions with drawings and such (sort of like an encyclopedia). Let's say that I wanted to find the word "reduction" for instance to see the description, examples, drawings,etc. The only thing I can do is flip page by page until I get to such word entry, which is extremely time wasting, since the dictionary is very large. This is why this Oxford dictionary of chemistry has an index page with three entries: 1) Look up a word or term 2) Look up an abbreviation 3) Look up a person Whichever I choose I get a "Indexes not supported in this version" window from my cybook in response. This way, the dictionary is 100% USELESS, since there's no practical way to browse in order to find the words you need! Am I right? Thanks.

10-26-2008, 11:47 AM	#6
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	That is correct. The Gen3 only allows you to look up the dictionary definition of a word in the book that you're currently reading. It does not allow you to do a search in the dictionary itself. ie if you had a book with the word "reduction" in it, you could look up the definition of that word in your dictionary. What you can't (currently) do is search for the word "reduction" in the dictionary itself. One word-around (read "horrible hack") would be to create a text file containing all the terms in the dictionary, and then do a "lookup" from that.

10-26-2008, 12:00 PM	#8
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	It sounds as if the chemistry dictionary isn't being recognised by Mobi as a "dictionary" - ie something to do lookups in. It should work fine having multiple dictionaries installed. Do you have it installed in the "eBooks" folder? Dictionaries don't work if you put them in a sub-folder.

10-26-2008, 12:08 PM	#10
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	That's all you should have to do. I'm out of ideas, I'm afraid. All I can suggest is that you contain Bookeen and ask their advice. In the mean time, you can do searches on the Windows Desktop version of the MobiPocket Reader (if you're a Windows user).

10-26-2008, 02:14 PM	#12
Pulp Palm Addict Posts: 477 Karma: 1001951 Join Date: Aug 2008 Device: Cybook Gen3 [512mb, FW: 1.5]	Also you have to make sure that the text-document you use to "lookup" the words has the same language defined as the dictionary. If the dictionaries propertie-dialog says language "en-en" you have to make sure the index-document is set to "en" aswell during creation - you cannot change the language in the windows-reader later on, cybook will ignore such changes.

10-30-2008, 02:00 PM	#14
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,600 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	Have you tried searching in Cambridge ....

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