Paperwhite ignores indents

[brahms]

Thanks for your help.

I've produced .mobi from epub using kindlegen. Everything was marked up by me, no conversion software at all other than kg.

On the kindle previewer all looks fine on all devices except the Paperwhite, which loses the para indents and substitutes a blank line.

Anything I can do in the way of an @media to stop this and force indents?

Thanks again,

Dave

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by brahms

Thanks for your help.

I've produced .mobi from epub using kindlegen. Everything was marked up by me, no conversion software at all other than kg.

On the kindle previewer all looks fine on all devices except the Paperwhite, which loses the para indents and substitutes a blank line.

Anything I can do in the way of an @media to stop this and force indents?

Thanks again,

Dave

No. A Paperwhite has a KF8 rendering engine, so there's no way to use a media query to fix that. May I ask to see the relevant CSS and a sample of the HTML being affected?

Hitch

[HarryT]

Are you producing a Mobi 7 or a KF8 book?

In Mobi 7 you do indents like this:

<p width="1.5em">

while for KF8 the standard CSS "text-indent" property works fine.

[brahms]

Thanks all.

Here's the relevant css:
One para is without indent, the other with. Both end in blocks on paperwhite.

p.firstpara {
text-indent: 0;
text-align: left;
line-height: 1.3em;
font-size: 1em;
margin: 0 0 0 0;
padding: 0;
font-family: "georgia", serif;
font-weight:normal;
orphans: 2;
widows: 2;
-epub-hyphens:none;
}

p.para {
text-indent: 1.25em;
text-align: left;
line-height: 1.3em;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
font-family: "georgia", serif;
font-weight:normal;
orphans: 2;
widows: 2;
-epub-hyphens:none;

If there's no media query, is there a way of doing belt and braces in the para markup?

Many thanks for your help - really appreciate it.

Dave

[AThirstyMind]

I was told years ago it was important to turn off widow/orphan control in Word if you were going to convert it to HTML then to ePub/mobi. Your CSS looks like that's still on. I know when you leave it on things can happen that you don't anticipate in ePub. Could that be your problem?

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by brahms

Thanks all.

Here's the relevant css:
One para is without indent, the other with. Both end in blocks on paperwhite.

p.firstpara {
text-indent: 0;
text-align: left;
line-height: 1.3em;
font-size: 1em;
margin: 0 0 0 0;
padding: 0;
font-family: "georgia", serif;
font-weight:normal;
orphans: 2;
widows: 2;
-epub-hyphens:none;
}

p.para {
text-indent: 1.25em;
text-align: left;
line-height: 1.3em;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
font-family: "georgia", serif;
font-weight:normal;
orphans: 2;
widows: 2;
-epub-hyphens:none;

If there's no media query, is there a way of doing belt and braces in the para markup?

Many thanks for your help - really appreciate it.

Dave

Well, that seems all perfectly normal. Hmph. There has to be something cascading and overriding it. What's your base P style? Do you have one? Do you have anything in the Body setting that might be doing this?

Hitch

[Doitsu]

Originally Posted by brahms

p.para {
text-indent: 1.25em;
text-align: left;
line-height: 1.3em;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
font-family: "georgia", serif;
font-weight:normal;
orphans: 2;
widows: 2;
-epub-hyphens:none;
}

The para style is missing the final curly bracket (}).

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by Doitsu

The para style is missing the final curly bracket (}).

Doits:

Do you think that's real? Or a "paste error?" Crappity, I assumed the latter. Yes, yes...never assume.

Htch

[brahms]

Yes it was a paste error. Sorry about that, not helpful.

I didn't bring in anything from Word. Everything came in cleaned as txt. All that widow / orphan stuff i borrowed having seen it somewhere and thinking it must mean something to kf 8.

Thanks again for pitching in with this. I'll get back on the other para styles tomorrow, if you don't mind. Time zones

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by brahms

Yes it was a paste error. Sorry about that, not helpful.

I didn't bring in anything from Word. Everything came in cleaned as txt. All that widow / orphan stuff i borrowed having seen it somewhere and thinking it must mean something to kf 8.

Thanks again for pitching in with this. I'll get back on the other para styles tomorrow, if you don't mind. Time zones

Of course! Worry not. We are all quite accustomed to the time-zone issues here.

Hitch

[brahms]

All the text is marked up the same way. The first paragraph after a section break is without indent and the css is p class="firstpara". Subsequent paras are indented and the css is p class="para".

Neither have top or bottom margins.

Any chance it could be the Kindle Previewer playing tricks (I don't have a real Paperwhite, though I'm trying to source one).

Thanks again for your help.

Dave

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by brahms

All the text is marked up the same way. The first paragraph after a section break is without indent and the css is p class="firstpara". Subsequent paras are indented and the css is p class="para".

Neither have top or bottom margins.

Any chance it could be the Kindle Previewer playing tricks (I don't have a real Paperwhite, though I'm trying to source one).

Thanks again for your help.

Dave

Stupid Question: this oughtn't to have anything to do with this, but what happens if you delete the text-align command from the CSS?

Hitch

[brahms]

I'll give that a go. Thanks Hitch. :

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by brahms

I'll give that a go. Thanks Hitch. :

Brahms:

That's a total winging it Hail Mary. As I can't see your total file, I can't know what's what. But it's a possibility.

Hitch

[JSWolf]

Post your entire CSS so we can have a look at it.