11-23-2007, 09:12 PM | #1 |
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What is the page number conversion?
If you use the mid size font....how many more or less pages is it on the Kindle in comparison with the printed trade paperback version?
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11-24-2007, 12:27 AM | #2 |
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The kindle doesn't use page numbers. That way, when you change fonts and the amount of words per page change, you can still go to the same spot. They use a different numbering system.
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11-25-2007, 08:30 AM | #4 |
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so how does it keep track of the page number?
I thought they'd keep pages as a metaphor at least. i don't think i like the idea of not being able to reference by page number. also, in terms of progress.....i think about what page i am. i am on page 100 of 500....i prefer that to i'm 20% complete. don't u agree? But i'm not sure yet since i don't have the device yet. should arrive by the 4th. |
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11-25-2007, 11:30 AM | #6 |
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On the 505, the pages are smaller then your average paperback and thus, you will find that you will have more pages per ebook then you do per paperback book. This goes for the Kindle, the Gen3, the 500, and the 505. The iLiad might have a better shot at matching a pbook given it's higher resolution and larger screen.
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11-25-2007, 11:34 AM | #7 |
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Um, I can't quite figure out the numbering system either. When I want to jump ahead, it's pure guess work on my part. And since it doesn't change with the font size and it isn't a word count, I have no idea what they were thinking by using that system. I hope their software updates change that.
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11-25-2007, 02:34 PM | #8 |
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Ok, I did some research using Cryptonomicon by Neil Stephenson, which is available on the kindle and also as a "Search Inside" pbook at Amazon which means they provide text statistics for it.
The ebook includes additional material so they aren't identical (I tried to compensate for this by using the Kindle "page" number at the end of the regular text where applicable). Here are some numbers: Characters per Kindle "page": 133 Words per Kindle "page": 23 Kindle "pages" per paperback edition page: 14.8 Compressed Kindle ebook bytes per Kindle "page": 109. Based on the search behavior I was expecting a Kindle "page" to simply be a chunk of 64 bytes of the uncompressed text data, but the number came out closer to 128 bytes and not quite close enough to be sure that's what it's doing rather than some variable-length magical computation. But since it doesn't seem to be correlated to anything else, my guess at this point is that a page may indeed just be 128 bytes (or characters) of book data, and the number varies a little based on embedded formatting data etc. Z. |
11-25-2007, 02:53 PM | #9 |
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I don't like the idea of the progerss being in units of 128 bytes, etc. They need to have page numbers!!! based on the current sized font.
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11-25-2007, 04:22 PM | #10 |
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The mobipocket reader software is designed to run in extremely CPU limited environments, which is why it does not do proper layouting and pagination.
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11-25-2007, 04:54 PM | #11 |
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I wouldn't call XScale PXA 255 an "extremely CPU limited environment". Though they do run UI in Java, so maybe it evens out
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11-25-2007, 06:25 PM | #12 |
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I doubt they re-wrote the code for the Kindle.
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12-04-2007, 11:27 PM | #14 |
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now that I have the Kindle....I've figured out a system for understanding the location number.
Based on comaring the Kindle version with the paper version....my formula is. Based on the 2 sized font, 2 Kindle pages = 1 paperback page. also, Location number / 20 = page number. For example, the location number of Great Expectations goes up to 9000. There are about 485 pages in the print version. 9000/485 equals about 20. Thus, 200 location numbers is like 10 pages. |
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