Duplicate books

MSWallack · 09-10-2015, 10:07 AM

My daughter's Kindle PW was dying. Before it finally went off to the afterworld (last night...), I managed to back up all of her books to my computer. I bought her a new PW (candidate for World's Best Dad, right?) and copied the books to the new device. I did this instead of just syncing from the Amazon cloud because many (most?) of the books on her device are ones that I'd sent to her from Calibre (via email).

Anyway, as I started looking at her new PW I noticed that many of the books appeared to be stored on the device twice. Queries:

1) How would that have happened?
2) Is it a potential problem, such that we should spend time deleting the duplicates (other than for space purposes; she has plenty of available space); I guess I'm worried about corrupted indexes or things like that.

eschwartz · 09-10-2015, 10:15 AM

Are there multiple copies of the files?

Perhaps the books were syncing before you transferred over the backed-up ones.

susan_cassidy · 09-10-2015, 06:56 PM

Syncing doesn't actually copy the book from the cloud. You have to do that yourself. Did you by chance use email to send the books from calibre? That would explain it.

HarryT · 09-11-2015, 02:17 AM

Susan,

The original post explicitly states "many (most?) of the books on her device are ones that I'd sent to her from Calibre (via email)."

MSWallack · 09-11-2015, 09:28 AM

The books for which there are duplicates all appear to be books that I emailed to the device from Calibre. Oddly, on at least some (I haven't check them all), the indicator for the amount of the book that has been read is different. Also, the duplicate books all appear to have been copied from the now-dead PW and not downloaded via sync. So somehow, the old PW wound up with duplicates of some books. Sadly, I can't experiment with the old PW to see if I can learn anything interesting because it is dead, dead, dead. Did I mention that the old PW is dead?

susan_cassidy · 09-11-2015, 01:42 PM

Doh. Well, if the books were from Amazon, and you also emailed the books, there should be two copies in the cloud. That's what you told it to do. The original copy, and a personal document copy. If the books are copies from the original Paperwhite, odds are they won't work on the new one, unless you stripped the DRM. Otherwise, unless you changed the titles or something, I don't see that you can tell from the Kindle which one is a personal doc, and which is the Amazon copy. Although, I've heard that in cover view, depending on how you sent them from Calibre, they might have a Personal doc banner across the cover, but I don't know if that shows up in the Archives/cloud. I don't have a Paperwhite.

MSWallack · 09-11-2015, 03:37 PM

Sorry, if I wasn't clear. None of the books that I emailed to her PW were from Amazon.

shalym · 09-11-2015, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSWallack

Sorry, if I wasn't clear. None of the books that I emailed to her PW were from Amazon.

Do you have it set so that books you email to her Kindle are also stored in the cloud?

Shari

MSWallack · 09-11-2015, 04:13 PM

I don't think so; I didn't even know that was an option. But presuming that I had turned that setting on (where do I find that setting), that wouldn't explain why the old PW had two copies of the books, would it?

susan_cassidy · 09-11-2015, 04:57 PM

Did it get emailed twice?

shalym · 09-12-2015, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSWallack

I don't think so; I didn't even know that was an option. But presuming that I had turned that setting on (where do I find that setting), that wouldn't explain why the old PW had two copies of the books, would it?

The option is set in Manage Your Content and Devices on the amazon website, and it may be enabled by default, but I'm not sure.

Are you sure that you're not looking at the Cloud view of the home screen?

If you are, and the books were sent to the cloud when you emailed them, you would see two copies--the one that you moved onto the device using USB, and the ones that were stored in the cloud. (or if you emailed them to the second device as well as the first then you may have both copies stored in the cloud)

Shari

MSWallack · 09-17-2015, 10:54 AM

Sadly, I haven't been able to check some of these ideas. The good news is that the reason I haven't been able to check is because my daughter is so possessive of her PW on which she spends so much time reading. So I guess I'm willing to live with not knowing the answer to a problem if it means that my daughter is reading, reading, reading.

09-10-2015, 10:07 AM	#1
MSWallack Right, Except When Wrong Posts: 353 Karma: 3968525 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Indianapolis Device: Kindle Oasis 3 (sometimes iPad Mini).	Duplicate books My daughter's Kindle PW was dying. Before it finally went off to the afterworld (last night...), I managed to back up all of her books to my computer. I bought her a new PW (candidate for World's Best Dad, right?) and copied the books to the new device. I did this instead of just syncing from the Amazon cloud because many (most?) of the books on her device are ones that I'd sent to her from Calibre (via email). Anyway, as I started looking at her new PW I noticed that many of the books appeared to be stored on the device twice. Queries: 1) How would that have happened? 2) Is it a potential problem, such that we should spend time deleting the duplicates (other than for space purposes; she has plenty of available space); I guess I'm worried about corrupted indexes or things like that.

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09-10-2015, 10:15 AM	#2
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Are there multiple copies of the files? Perhaps the books were syncing before you transferred over the backed-up ones.

09-10-2015, 06:56 PM	#3
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	Syncing doesn't actually copy the book from the cloud. You have to do that yourself. Did you by chance use email to send the books from calibre? That would explain it.

09-11-2015, 02:17 AM	#4
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Susan, The original post explicitly states "many (most?) of the books on her device are ones that I'd sent to her from Calibre (via email)."

09-11-2015, 09:28 AM	#5
MSWallack Right, Except When Wrong Posts: 353 Karma: 3968525 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Indianapolis Device: Kindle Oasis 3 (sometimes iPad Mini).	The books for which there are duplicates all appear to be books that I emailed to the device from Calibre. Oddly, on at least some (I haven't check them all), the indicator for the amount of the book that has been read is different. Also, the duplicate books all appear to have been copied from the now-dead PW and not downloaded via sync. So somehow, the old PW wound up with duplicates of some books. Sadly, I can't experiment with the old PW to see if I can learn anything interesting because it is dead, dead, dead. Did I mention that the old PW is dead?

09-11-2015, 01:42 PM	#6
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	Doh. Well, if the books were from Amazon, and you also emailed the books, there should be two copies in the cloud. That's what you told it to do. The original copy, and a personal document copy. If the books are copies from the original Paperwhite, odds are they won't work on the new one, unless you stripped the DRM. Otherwise, unless you changed the titles or something, I don't see that you can tell from the Kindle which one is a personal doc, and which is the Amazon copy. Although, I've heard that in cover view, depending on how you sent them from Calibre, they might have a Personal doc banner across the cover, but I don't know if that shows up in the Archives/cloud. I don't have a Paperwhite.

09-11-2015, 03:37 PM	#7
MSWallack Right, Except When Wrong Posts: 353 Karma: 3968525 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Indianapolis Device: Kindle Oasis 3 (sometimes iPad Mini).	Sorry, if I wasn't clear. None of the books that I emailed to her PW were from Amazon.

09-11-2015, 04:13 PM	#9
MSWallack Right, Except When Wrong Posts: 353 Karma: 3968525 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Indianapolis Device: Kindle Oasis 3 (sometimes iPad Mini).	I don't think so; I didn't even know that was an option. But presuming that I had turned that setting on (where do I find that setting), that wouldn't explain why the old PW had two copies of the books, would it?

09-11-2015, 04:57 PM	#10
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	Did it get emailed twice?

09-17-2015, 10:54 AM	#12
MSWallack Right, Except When Wrong Posts: 353 Karma: 3968525 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Indianapolis Device: Kindle Oasis 3 (sometimes iPad Mini).	Sadly, I haven't been able to check some of these ideas. The good news is that the reason I haven't been able to check is because my daughter is so possessive of her PW on which she spends so much time reading. So I guess I'm willing to live with not knowing the answer to a problem if it means that my daughter is reading, reading, reading.

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