03-11-2014, 09:14 AM | #1 |
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[Android] Wish List
This thread is for discussing what you would like to change in CC. Additions, deletions, and changes to existing functionality are all fair game.
Major CC releases happen every 3 to 6 months. We don't promise that we will do what you ask in these releases, but we will be guided by what users want. Having things here is also an excellent way to ensure that the ideas are not forgotten. I will try to keep this summary up-to-date Wish list items from all sources:
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03-11-2014, 09:29 AM | #2 |
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By kaufman from https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=235657
---- When in list view, you always show the same information. Cover on the left. Title, author, and series on the right. This fills up the space when using small covers, but leaves a lot of empty space for normal, medium, and large ones. Perhaps you could show some extended book information when those sizes are selected. My thought perhaps to show Rating and Publication date when using the normal or medium sized cover and to show Rating, Publication date and Tags when using the large covers. What do you think? Moderator Notice
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Whenever I think of this I run into several issues. The first is formatting. Can the user specify the order of the items? Are they displayed one line per item or word wrapped? Or is there some more fancy layout system where the cell is divided into regions and the user can choose what goes into a region. Another is navigation: can any of them be tapped, now that we have that in book details and know how to do it? If so, should the existing author line become tappable? There are also likely to be performance issues, especially when flinging the list up and down. Hmmm.... |
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03-11-2014, 10:53 AM | #4 |
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I think the easiest way to handle this is not to do the lines completely free form, but to give a couple of options. Fixed size metadata might come two to a line, and variable size would be one to a line. Something like:
[] Rating and Publication Date [] Publisher and Publication Date [] Rating and Publisher [] Tags I would argue against making them tapable for three reasons: 1) Right now the user has a fairly big area to tap to open the details screen (which is the default use-case), but if you made all the sub-information tapable, the way to open the details screen would become a very small target. 2) From this screen, the user already has the option to open the grouping drawer and tap there. 3) It will make this screen really busy with all that underlining. |
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Another possible Book List idea for the future... I expect those who retain already Read books in CC may like to see at-a-glance which books are Read and which aren't. I know you can select Read/Unread by grouping but a simple one-char field (e.g. asterisk or a tick) in a fixed column (between cover and Author/Title ???) in Book List might be nice.
Plus I'll reiterate my long-standing wish to be able to 'promote' the Comments field to be the first (after cover) on the Book Details page. Having Author and Title at the top seems a waste when I can easily read that info on the cover. As for Publisher, ISBN and Languages, if I had the option, I really don't need to see them in CC at all - but that's probably just me. Last edited by jackie_w; 03-11-2014 at 07:41 PM. |
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This would also play well with kaufman's proposal, somehow... Quote:
Another thing I can do is keep a list of *every* field specification that has ever shown up on the device. This isn't too hard given that the info is buried in the metadata that calibre sends to the device. If I did this then (I think) I would need a function that scans the DB and removes any fields that are no longer there, something that would take a while for a lot of books (around 4 to 6 books per second). Doing it this way would also allow me to change the selection boxes in settings (grouping, read syncing) from "manually type" to "select from a list". Of course, things would to south rather quickly if different libraries use the same lookup key for different column types. |
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With the latest changes where all books suddenly had the same "Updated" date, it got me to thinking that I would love the option to sort books in the library by the "date added to CC." Any modifications to any metadata would always be ignored, and books would always show by the order they were added to the library. If a book was deleted in CC, and then got added back, it would go to the top of the list as any new book would.
While I think I would use this as my default sort most of the time, it wouldn't totally supplant the "Date Updated (CC)" sorting. I would still use that often to check that changes I make to books/metadata in Calibre on the PC had carried over correctly. Quote:
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1) I would like the option to hide sorting type I don't use. I only ever sort by title, author or series, so I would like to suppress the other ones. This is really only helpful it you also.... 2) It wold be nice to have the an option for the sorting button to just cycle through the sort types the way the Show button toggles between the different view types. I switch back and forth a lot, and this would cut out a lot of button presses. You could also get much of the same value by having an option to switch to Series sorting whenever the group by was changed to "series" and then switch to some user defined "default sort" whenever the user switched to a different grouping. In some ways, this is better because "series" sorting is probably what most people do when they switch to a series, and title or author is probably most used in title, author, tag or rating groupings. In fact, if you added another default sort for ungrouped, you could also handle the case where a person is loking at their entire library. I imagine that that is the most common use-case for the date related sorts. In reading over this, I actually think I like this way better because it would allow me to move the Sort by button to the menu, since I would almost never use it any more. |
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... I'm afraid I couldn't agree with you less CC is the only book app I've used (on android or eink devices) which allows me to set secondary/tertiary/etc sort fields from the device. My standard sort sequence is Author/Series[Index]/Title - OK, it currently takes 3 sort passes to get me there - but how would I achieve that at all with what you're suggesting. Now, if you were suggesting a feature to cycle around a personal set of 'saved sort sequences', I could happily vote for that, but that's probably not so easy.
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1) I did ask for it as an option. I certainly don't want to force my way of doing things on everyone. I am only suggesting as easier way for me that might be useful for more people. 2) I'm trying to figure out what you are doing with your three sorts. It seems to me that unless you have a lot of books with the same title, your third sort is going to wipe out the first two. I do multiple pass sorts a lot in Calibre, but only on fields that have a few values. So, if I sort by Title and then by rating, it will show the books sorted by rating with the individual ratings in alphabetical order. It seems like you are going to end up with just a title sort. Or did you mean you do title and then series and then author? I guess that makes more sense, but wouldn't it be easier to group by author and then do whatever other sorting you want to? |
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Example: peruse my library looking for something interesting. Using her sort (and yes, you do invert the steps), you see books by author. Inside that grouping you see the books ordered by series. Books with no series (or better for this example, the empty series) are ordered by title. As for the ideas: as usual this requires thought. Having sorts optionally attached to grouping could make a lot of sense. Having the ability to specify compound sorts as a single operation could also make a lot of sense. It might also make sense to make sorts available as links or buttons in the grouping drawer, where you define which ones appear there (less convinced about this one). I do think that there must be a way for the user to access easily all the sort operations, but this might be different from the "common" operations directly available. This is one that should cook for a while, perhaps attracting more comments and ideas. |
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03-15-2014, 02:23 PM | #13 |
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This is why I love this forum (and especially) Chaley. I learn all sorts of interesting things, and then my favorite program gets even better.
I hadn't thought of looking a large lists of books on the device because I do that kind of setup on my computer and then create Tags for later. I recognize that my way is the nerdy OCD method that might not appeal to everyone. At first it seemed to me that browsing your entire library with the three level sort is skipping out on a lot of the capabilities of CC, but then I realized that that is similar to what I do on my computer in Calibre. I like it better on the big screen, but that's just my way. Two comments: 1) As far as my requests go, I would be very happy with just the ability to attach a default sort type to each grouping method. That is probably the only thing on my list that meets the value vs effort test. 2) This is going to be very hard for you, but one thing that might be useful for people who do the Author/Series[Index]/Title three way sort would be to have a way to exclude all of the books from a series except the first one. That way if you were browsing through books looking for something to read, you would only see the standalone books or the first in the series. You don't really need to see the whole series just the first one as that is the one you will probably start with. I don't do this kind of sorting in CC, so this is an idea for Jackie and Chaley and other people who do. |
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Could you also add "More information in list view" to the wish list?
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My suspicion is that putting the "old list" in the middle of the thread confused things. To (I hope) avoid this confusion I moved it to the first post, and also put a summary there of what has been asked for in this thread. I will need to keep it up to date, but that shouldn't be too hard. |
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