Kobo Forma or Kindle Oasis? - Page 3

HLS · 02-14-2020, 07:13 PM

How about the Libra? I have the libra and the oasis and I prefer Libra. Better Battery

Sirtel · 02-15-2020, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by HLS

How about the Libra? I have the libra and the oasis and I prefer Libra. Better Battery

I actually prefer the Libra to my Kindles as well. Not because the battery is better (frankly I haven't noticed much difference, but then I've never had any battery problems with my Oases, like many people seem to have), but because it's more comfortable to hold, for me at least. Still, I'm not planning to sell my Kindles yet.

NamKK · 02-16-2020, 09:37 AM

I love my Forma, no way I would go back to Oasis, 2 or 3.

Richwood · 03-09-2020, 12:19 PM

For those who are bothered by the uneven illumination on the Forma. Seeing as how on mine at least the strip does not intrude on the normal text area on the screen, have you considered just adding some dark tape or a black paper strip over the affected area if it bugs you that much? My other solution is to leave illumination off when reading which also minimizes battery drain. Kindle, Kobo or Nook, my default reading setting is screen lighting minimized and communications off. Makes for great battery life.

phenomshel · 05-09-2020, 06:30 PM

Hi all, yes, long time no see. I've read through the thread here, and didn't see my question, so I'll ask it here and y'all can feel free (as I know you will) if it's already been answered elsewhere. My poor Kobo is on its last legs, and I'm looking for a replacement. I like the Kindle Oasis for the screen size and storage capacity, and since I'm an experienced Calibre user, I know all about sideloading, formats, etc. My question though, is how is sideloading on the Oasis. On the Kobo, it seems to take it a very long time to process anything sent to it from Calibre via the USB cord. Is this also the case with the Oasis? I plan to transfer quite a lot of my collection over to the device.

Shel

DNSB · 05-09-2020, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by phenomshel

Hi all, yes, long time no see. I've read through the thread here, and didn't see my question, so I'll ask it here and y'all can feel free (as I know you will) if it's already been answered elsewhere. My poor Kobo is on its last legs, and I'm looking for a replacement. I like the Kindle Oasis for the screen size and storage capacity, and since I'm an experienced Calibre user, I know all about sideloading, formats, etc. My question though, is how is sideloading on the Oasis. On the Kobo, it seems to take it a very long time to process anything sent to it from Calibre via the USB cord. Is this also the case with the Oasis? I plan to transfer quite a lot of my collection over to the device.

You might want to check HarryT's thread on Tips for loading a large library onto a KO2.

I recently helped one friend transfer his calibre collection after his old Paperwhite died after being slammed in his car door (it was in his jacket pocket and oooopppssss). He picked up a Clara HD which I helped him upgrade to 32GB and a new to him Voyage. It took less time to copy the books to the Clara HD, import them and reconnect to calibre to transfer the metadata than it did to copy the books to his Voyage and have it index the ebooks. I did not count the time to extract the epubs from his azw3s and check them. KindleUnpack and QualityCheck were very handy there.

His library consisted of about 3000 books in a mix of purchased and PD. The Clara HD took them in one burst and had them imported in under an hour. I'm not sure exactly how long since we went to enjoy a couple of sandwiches and beers and it was done when we got back. We started the copy of the same files to the Voyage after the Clara HD had finished the copy and it took about the same time as copying to the Clara HD. OTOH, the Voyage was still indexing when I left in the late afternoon. The report was that it took till the next evening before it finished indexing

Admittedly, my understanding is that indexing on a Kindle is a lot more intensive than the importing on a Kobo as the entire ebook has to be scanned and all words added to the index vs. adding the ebook and metadata to the database.

Collections and series are much nicer on the Kobo than on a Kindle using calibre to manage them. Not to mention being able to borrow from the library on his Clara HD (outside the USA so no Kindle ebooks from the local libraries) without downloading using ADE, removing DRM and converting.

JSWolf · 05-09-2020, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by phenomshel

Hi all, yes, long time no see. I've read through the thread here, and didn't see my question, so I'll ask it here and y'all can feel free (as I know you will) if it's already been answered elsewhere. My poor Kobo is on its last legs, and I'm looking for a replacement. I like the Kindle Oasis for the screen size and storage capacity, and since I'm an experienced Calibre user, I know all about sideloading, formats, etc. My question though, is how is sideloading on the Oasis. On the Kobo, it seems to take it a very long time to process anything sent to it from Calibre via the USB cord. Is this also the case with the Oasis? I plan to transfer quite a lot of my collection over to the device.

Shel

I have an original H2O and it does not take a very long time to process anything sent to it. As for the Kindle, it's not nearly as well integrated with Calibre as the Forma is. Kobo can do a lot more with Calibre and has much better eBook management then Kindles.

Sirtel · 05-09-2020, 08:31 PM

It doesn't really take any longer to sideload the books to a modern Kobo than it takes to load them to the Oasis. I have both the latest Kobo and the latest Oasis and sideload all my books. The time spent sideloading is about the same. The Oasis has to index the books afterwards, so it's not a good move to load thousands of books in one batch. Better to spread them out.

JSWolf · 05-10-2020, 04:16 AM

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It doesn't really take any longer to sideload the books to a modern Kobo than it takes to load them to the Oasis. I have both the latest Kobo and the latest Oasis and sideload all my books. The time spent sideloading is about the same. The Oasis has to index the books afterwards, so it's not a good move to load thousands of books in one batch. Better to spread them out.

It's not good to load too many books to a Kindle as well because if one gets stuck indexing, it can drain the battery. So trying to find which one isn't indexing requires loading a few at a time until you find which group and then load one at a time.

At least with Kobo, you see the progress so you know when it's done processing.

DNSB · 05-10-2020, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

It's not good to load too many books to a Kindle as well because if one gets stuck indexing, it can drain the battery. So trying to find which one isn't indexing requires loading a few at a time until you find which group and then load one at a time.

At least with Kobo, you see the progress so you know when it's done processing.

Unless of course, you run into a book which will not import. Then you are back to the same game as the Kindle trying to locate the needle in the haystack.

When we did the mass of files to the Voyage, it was left plugged into a charger until it had finished indexing.

phenomshel · 05-10-2020, 12:48 PM

Thank you all for the great advice! Good to know about importing in small batches. I didn't realize the Kindle had to index *everything*. Yikes.

ZodWallop · 05-11-2020, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by phenomshel

My poor Kobo is on its last legs, and I'm looking for a replacement. I like the Kindle Oasis for the screen size and storage capacity...

Out of curiosity, if you like the Oasis and are used to Kobo, why not look at the Kobo Libra H2O? They have the same size screen, storage and offset design. Plus the Kobo is $80 cheaper.

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On the Kobo, it seems to take it a very long time to process anything sent to it from Calibre via the USB cord.

Do you use the KoboTouchExtended driver? Maybe it takes a while because the book is being converted to ePub?

Quoth · 05-12-2020, 06:06 AM

Actually here the Libra is €100 (inc VAT) cheaper than the Forma and €30 less than I paid for the original Aura HD H2O. For a while the Libra (7") was about the same price as the PW4 without adverts (so called special offers).
So I bought a 10" tablet for €120 on special offer at the end of 2019, normally €185+ Though I've found a couple of PDFs that need 12" or 14". A 256 Gbyte micro SD card was £37 and has about 190 Gbyte of technical documents on it. Finally I have the Padd!

03-09-2020, 12:19 PM	#34
Richwood Astronomy Nut Posts: 519 Karma: 3700000 Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Reno, NV Device: Kindle (All), Kobo (Multiple), Sony (most) and Nook Glowlight Plus	For those who are bothered by the uneven illumination on the Forma. Seeing as how on mine at least the strip does not intrude on the normal text area on the screen, have you considered just adding some dark tape or a black paper strip over the affected area if it bugs you that much? My other solution is to leave illumination off when reading which also minimizes battery drain. Kindle, Kobo or Nook, my default reading setting is screen lighting minimized and communications off. Makes for great battery life. Last edited by Richwood; 03-09-2020 at 01:33 PM.

05-09-2020, 06:30 PM	#35
phenomshel ZCD BombShel Posts: 4,793 Karma: 8293322 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Frozen North (aka Illinois, USA) Device: iPad, STB Kindle Oasis	Sideloading question Hi all, yes, long time no see. I've read through the thread here, and didn't see my question, so I'll ask it here and y'all can feel free (as I know you will) if it's already been answered elsewhere. My poor Kobo is on its last legs, and I'm looking for a replacement. I like the Kindle Oasis for the screen size and storage capacity, and since I'm an experienced Calibre user, I know all about sideloading, formats, etc. My question though, is how is sideloading on the Oasis. On the Kobo, it seems to take it a very long time to process anything sent to it from Calibre via the USB cord. Is this also the case with the Oasis? I plan to transfer quite a lot of my collection over to the device. Shel

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Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 11,076 Karma: 85874891 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	Actually here the Libra is €100 (inc VAT) cheaper than the Forma and €30 less than I paid for the original Aura HD H2O. For a while the Libra (7") was about the same price as the PW4 without adverts (so called special offers). So I bought a 10" tablet for €120 on special offer at the end of 2019, normally €185+ Though I've found a couple of PDFs that need 12" or 14". A 256 Gbyte micro SD card was £37 and has about 190 Gbyte of technical documents on it. Finally I have the Padd!

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