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Old 12-08-2017, 04:36 PM   #1
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Bookmaker's rant

So....

I know this is a how-to forum, and all that. But there's no V&R thread for bookmakers, which has always surprised me a bit. Anyway...

Today, I recieved a PDF--made by a professional, mind you, a print layout person, using INDD--which has, wait for it....

Spoiler:
56 effing fonts.

And NO, I don't mean, 8 fonts with 48 variants, I mean, mother-of-God, 56 DIFFERENT Typefaces, and only Christ knows how many FONTS!


For the love of heaven! How the hell am I supposed to pull that miracle out of my ? (Polite body part substituted for my usual).

I'm still gobsmacked.

Spoiler:
AjazSurrealFreak; AceCrikey; ActionIs, Shaded JL, Algerian; AlgerianMesa; Arial-black; ArtBrush; AvenirNext; BabyKruffy; Bauhaus93; BernardMT; Birdfeather; Blacksword; BodoniMT; BradleyHandITCTT; Calibri; Chalkduster; CheriLiney; ChillerPlain; Cochin; ComicNeue; ComicSans; CowSpots; CubicSub; CurlzMT; Distress; Drunker-sRB; Electrik; FirecatMedium; FjallaOne; FlutSaus; FontdinerdotcomSparkly; FranklinGothic-Heavy; Fresnel; goudyOldStyleT; HayStackMFWide; Heartland Regular; Helvetica; InkbleedRegularSWFTE; JandaSparkleandShine-Bold; Jokerman; Kinkie; Monotypee corsiva; Monsterjelly; Noteworthy-Bold; OogieBoogie; Phosphate-Inline; Pumpkin; SavoyeLetPlain; Schrift; SketchBoards; Souvenir Bold; Stencil; Thickhead; TNR; Wingdings.


Nope, not kidding. And, btw, half of those have different fontfaces/variants, like AvenirNext Narrow, etc. I can't guess at the total final number; maybe 75? Hell, maybe 100?

Anyone here want to take bets on the chances of us ever getting that to work, in MOBI format? The odds? Howza 'bout, ZERO? Sweet Moses on a pony, trying to get SIX fonts to work in a book is a miracle. 56? FIFTY-SIX?

Not to mention, what are they going to say, when they see a KF7 version??????????????????




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Old 12-08-2017, 05:55 PM   #2
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To be honest, there comes a point where it is more profitable to turn down a job than to attempt to please a customer.
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Old 12-08-2017, 06:28 PM   #3
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To be honest, there comes a point where it is more profitable to turn down a job than to attempt to please a customer.
NO, really?

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Old 12-08-2017, 06:47 PM   #4
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Always a good sign too when you only recognize like 5 of the fonts. "Monotypee corsiva" gave me a chuckle. I'm certain that's 100% totally legit and properly licensed.
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:38 PM   #5
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Always a good sign too when you only recognize like 5 of the fonts. "Monotypee corsiva" gave me a chuckle. I'm certain that's 100% totally legit and properly licensed.
I know, right? I have an extensive--extensive--library of fonts, well in the thousands, and I don't recognize at least 80% of them. Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze.

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Apart from all the technical and legal difficulties - I am sure that thing LOOKS just plain awefulsome...
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Old 12-09-2017, 01:57 PM   #7
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Apart from all the technical and legal difficulties - I am sure that thing LOOKS just plain awefulsome...
It's a MG reader (Middle Grade, so presumably, for 7-9 year olds), so I'm not sure that we can judge, as, allegedly, we're all adults here. But it's not my taste, no.

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It's a MG reader (Middle Grade, so presumably, for 7-9 year olds), so I'm not sure that we can judge, as, allegedly, we're all adults here. But it's not my taste, no.

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Bombarding the poor kids with a gazillion fonts - I know that kind of book (in print). I think it is totally the wrong way to go; doesn't help them to focus at all. I bet those 56 fonts come in 57 colours too, with 58 kinds of frames around 59 sizes of text block and 60 flavours of underlining, right?
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Bombarding the poor kids with a gazillion fonts - I know that kind of book (in print). I think it is totally the wrong way to go; doesn't help them to focus at all. I bet those 56 fonts come in 57 colours too, with 58 kinds of frames around 59 sizes of text block and 60 flavours of underlining, right?
LOL, pretty much. Plus, they are gigantic-sized--towering over the rest of the text, and yes, in different colors, etc. No end to it.

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Reminds me of the 'nineties and beginner website builders. What's the good of all those fonts if you don't use them all on every page?
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Reminds me of the 'nineties and beginner website builders. What's the good of all those fonts if you don't use them all on every page?
lol, indeed, and the beginning of The Scourge of Comic Sans.

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congrats! it's gotta be david carsons book? is it?
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congrats! it's gotta be david carsons book? is it?
Apparently, I'm no longer cool, because I have NO idea who that is. Who is that?

Wait, you mean, THAT David Carson?The Graphic designer? Oh, hell no, I'm pretty sure he knows how to make his own book.

No, this is a retail book.

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Today, I recieved a PDF--made by a professional, mind you, a print layout person, using INDD--which has, wait for it....

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56 effing fonts.
Are you sure they were a pro? In design, isn't one of the first things you learn: "Stick with a few fonts"?
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Are you sure they were a pro? In design, isn't one of the first things you learn: "Stick with a few fonts"?
It's certainly one of the first things you learn in design. So, a good question.

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