09-22-2013, 02:17 AM | #46 |
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A particular set of authors has already doxxed at least one reviewer and published information on where she and her family hung out IRL and could be found.
That's the sort of behaviour some reviewers are sharing, in the hope that future potential readers might avoid interacting with or posting a negative review on books with authors who behave that way. None of this is in any way comparable to a lynch mob. There's really no need to co-opt a violent racist past (or mostly-past) in order to talk about this sort of non-racist behaviour. |
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Excuse my ignorance but what is 'doxxed'?
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Keeping lists of books/authors you want to avoid reading seems silly enough to me. Keeping lists of books/authors you'd encourage others to avoid seems downright presumptuous.
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http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/doxing
Searching out and tracking down as much personal information about a person as possible, then publishing it, in order to harass and intimidate them. |
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In the particular case that triggered off all of this, it wasn't "people to avoid reading because they write badly", it was "people to consider avoiding posting negative reviews on because they have a history of stalking reviewers and encouraging others to harass them and their family". It all snowballed outwards from there. |
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There are some authors I like a lot but some of their books aren't my taste. Anytime I checked these author's books, I finished checking the same books over and over. Now they're in my "Not my taste" list, so I can skip them next time.
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Can go both ways. An author has "fans" that can operate in almost precisely the same way as "anti-fans". Just enhances the point as far as I can see. Regardless from which direction the attack comes, it still pretty much looks the same - at least from my perspective.
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I've seen a lot of comments here about how great this is, etc, etc. Each to their own I guess.
What I haven't seen is any discussion on the fact that there has been NO change in the TOS for GR members to agree to, only an announcement. And that immediately after that announcement Reviews and Shelves were deleted with no warning, no time to comply with the new guidelines, nothing. And the fact that this is a MAJOR policy change for GR. The powers that be on GR have maintained, staunchly, that shelves were for us the readers. We were also reassured, ad naseum, after the Amazon buyout, that our reviews were indeed ours and would not be deleted without reason. So while many commenters here see this as "a tempest in a teapot", for those of us who are/were heavily invested in GR, this is truly a tempest. |
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I can understand GR want to do something about the bad behaviour of both readers and authors. How they've gone about it, though, I don't agree with.
The deletion of shelves and reviews with only a notification after it has been done is incredibly disrespectful. People should get a chance to change or delete "offensive" reviews, at least a week in my opinion. According to GR, up until Friday, shelves were for users and should stay that way. I have a shelf "not for me" to remind me that I don't want to read certain authors, for whatever reason. I've read that people got their "due to author" shelf deleted because it is offensive. How!? Due to author, for me, could mean because of behaviour or views but also because of writing style or themes. I also think discussion of authors' behaviour and views should be possible if that discussion is inoffensive; no threatening and "I wish he would die" or sharing of personal information. Also, announcing the changes in a group many that many people don't read is silly. They should have put it not only on their blog, but send out an email informing people of the change and put in in a banner at the top of every page. |
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But what use is a review/book recommendation site if people are put off leaving negative reviews if they think that's what the book deserves? A lot of writers are mentally unhinged in some way, that's why they write. Doesn't mean they will always lash out, more than likely it would just be their first negative review that makes them do that. Anyway, without the change what would have stopped a writer from putting themselves on such a list just so they will only get positive reviews? |
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Depends on your point of view. If authors feel insulted when their book is criticized... |
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Speaking about author's behavior, a lady wrote a biography of a rising general, said very flattering complement about him, only later we found out that she is his mistress. http://www.amazon.com/All-In-Educati...DateDescending
Some of the reviews from Nov 2012 onward contain very negative and sarcastic comments about the author's behavior but the reviews stay. Last edited by Julius Caesar; 09-22-2013 at 11:08 AM. |
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