e-ink readers that run LineageOS? - Page 2

rkomar · 04-03-2024, 07:14 PM

You need to regularly update the certificates on a device if you want to use the web for general purposes. The trend is to go for shorter expiration dates, which means that devices with certificates that cannot be updated become useless even more quickly than before. For me, this is the number one problem with platforms that are orphaned by their manufacturers.

Frogm4n · 04-03-2024, 09:33 PM

Root certificates are valid for many years for this reason. The certificates on the websites themselves, that are signed by intermediate certs that are in turn signed by those root certs, are the ones that rotate regularly and have had their valid lifetimes shortened.

DNSB · 04-03-2024, 09:45 PM

There have been quite a few root certificates that have been invalidated for key length issues and lazy sysadmins who did not keep up with the changes. Currently there is a move to 3072 or 4096 bit keys from 2048 bit keys and quite a few bits of software will no longer accept a 1024 bit certificate as being secure. If you are a developer and using code signing, you may remember that back in 2021, the minimum key length for a code signing certificate changed to 3072 bits.

jago25_98 · 03-17-2025, 01:10 AM

This is a useful thread. I didn't realise that LineageOS is only minor help for keeping devices updated, and therefore secure.

So, to that end I'm thinking laterally, since I do need to both protect my eyes and get things done without getting digitally robbed by using an outdated device online.

One approach could be to forego integration and go back to displays that are separate to the device. There are eink monitors and eink tablets that can act as monitors. Both of these ruin the ability to be mobile somewhat. Maybe that could be improved.

The only example I can think of an ereader allowing much user control was the Nook ST hacking projects. Joey Castillo's OpenBook is another project like this.

Other news updates:
Hibreak rooted; potentially allows slightly longer updates from Lineage rather than relying on the manufacturer:
https://xdaforums.com/t/bigme-hibrea...phone.4723924/
;joins Hisense A9 series

BoomStickMuppet · 03-20-2025, 10:09 PM

I have a rooted A5 Pro. I think I'm going to try flash Lineage OS GSI on it. From what I've read it SHOULD work. I'm going to hit the fellow up who did it on the A9 Pro over on Mastadon and see if he has any advice.

The reason I want to is I dislike the Vision rom that comes with the A5 Pro. The English language is spotty in the system menus, and I dislike not being able to completely customize the lock screen.

I plan to do backups so I can recover or revert if it's not good enough, but keen to see how it goes.

kandwo · 03-21-2025, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BoomStickMuppet

I have a rooted A5 Pro. I think I'm going to try flash Lineage OS GSI on it. From what I've read it SHOULD work. I'm going to hit the fellow up who did it on the A9 Pro over on Mastadon and see if he has any advice.

The reason I want to is I dislike the Vision rom that comes with the A5 Pro. The English language is spotty in the system menus, and I dislike not being able to completely customize the lock screen.

I plan to do backups so I can recover or revert if it's not good enough, but keen to see how it goes.

It'll be great if you succeed. I have an A5 Pro that I'm not using. I'd love to install LineageOS on it.

You'd need to port the e-ink functionality. Maybe the .apk provided by Damien in the XDA thread for rooting the A9 will work on the A5 Pro, too.

BoomStickMuppet · 03-23-2025, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kandwo

You'd need to port the e-ink functionality. Maybe the .apk provided by Damien in the XDA thread for rooting the A9 will work on the A5 Pro, too.

Yeah true. I haven't touched Java in years and never even looked at Kotlin, but I feel if I had to make some tweaks I could stumble my way through it. Time is a little tight at the moment as I'm doing house reno's so it may be some time before I make any progress!

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04-03-2024, 07:14 PM	#16
rkomar Wizard Posts: 3,033 Karma: 18765431 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Sudbury, ON, Canada Device: PRS-505, PB 902, PRS-T1, PB 623, PB 840, PB 633	You need to regularly update the certificates on a device if you want to use the web for general purposes. The trend is to go for shorter expiration dates, which means that devices with certificates that cannot be updated become useless even more quickly than before. For me, this is the number one problem with platforms that are orphaned by their manufacturers.

04-03-2024, 09:33 PM	#17
Frogm4n Evangelist Posts: 405 Karma: 3456807 Join Date: Jul 2023 Device: Scribe, OA2, Glo HD, PRS-350	Root certificates are valid for many years for this reason. The certificates on the websites themselves, that are signed by intermediate certs that are in turn signed by those root certs, are the ones that rotate regularly and have had their valid lifetimes shortened.

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DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 44,151 Karma: 165572332 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	There have been quite a few root certificates that have been invalidated for key length issues and lazy sysadmins who did not keep up with the changes. Currently there is a move to 3072 or 4096 bit keys from 2048 bit keys and quite a few bits of software will no longer accept a 1024 bit certificate as being secure. If you are a developer and using code signing, you may remember that back in 2021, the minimum key length for a code signing certificate changed to 3072 bits.

03-17-2025, 01:10 AM	#19
jago25_98 Zealot Posts: 113 Karma: 3200000 Join Date: Dec 2005 Device: n35 p800 n30	This is a useful thread. I didn't realise that LineageOS is only minor help for keeping devices updated, and therefore secure. So, to that end I'm thinking laterally, since I do need to both protect my eyes and get things done without getting digitally robbed by using an outdated device online. One approach could be to forego integration and go back to displays that are separate to the device. There are eink monitors and eink tablets that can act as monitors. Both of these ruin the ability to be mobile somewhat. Maybe that could be improved. The only example I can think of an ereader allowing much user control was the Nook ST hacking projects. Joey Castillo's OpenBook is another project like this. Other news updates: Hibreak rooted; potentially allows slightly longer updates from Lineage rather than relying on the manufacturer: https://xdaforums.com/t/bigme-hibrea...phone.4723924/ ;joins Hisense A9 series

03-20-2025, 10:09 PM	#20
BoomStickMuppet A person Posts: 16 Karma: 461060 Join Date: Apr 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Hisense A5 Pro	I have a rooted A5 Pro. I think I'm going to try flash Lineage OS GSI on it. From what I've read it *SHOULD* work. I'm going to hit the fellow up who did it on the A9 Pro over on Mastadon and see if he has any advice. The reason I want to is I dislike the Vision rom that comes with the A5 Pro. The English language is spotty in the system menus, and I dislike not being able to completely customize the lock screen. I plan to do backups so I can recover or revert if it's not good enough, but keen to see how it goes.