Tables go crazy when converted to Mobi

sebdea · 10-22-2012, 02:22 PM

Hi all,

Here are all the details that might help me find a solution:

OS: Apple
Sigil version: 0.5.3
Calibre: 0.9.3
Original format: Epub
Converted format: Mobi

This is the log file:
Convert book 1 of 1 (Get That New Job)
Resolved conversion options
calibre version: 0.9.3
{'asciiize': False,
'author_sort': None,
'authors': None,
'base_font_size': 0.0,
'book_producer': None,
'change_justification': u'original',
'chapter': u"//*[((name()='h1' or name()='h2') and re:test(., '\\s*((chapter|book|section|part)\\s+)|((prolog|pr ologue|epilogue)(\\s+|$))', 'i')) or @class = 'chapter']",
'chapter_mark': u'pagebreak',
'comments': None,
'cover': u'/var/folders/vp/jc8vkktd6972tf7splsh6y9r0000gn/T/calibre_0.9.3_tmp_3Ioxec/RCBXEB.jpeg',
'debug_pipeline': None,
'dehyphenate': True,
'delete_blank_paragraphs': True,
'disable_font_rescaling': False,
'dont_compress': False,
'duplicate_links_in_toc': False,
'enable_heuristics': False,
'extra_css': None,
'extract_to': None,
'filter_css': u'',
'fix_indents': True,
'font_size_mapping': None,
'format_scene_breaks': True,
'html_unwrap_factor': 0.4,
'input_encoding': None,
'input_profile': <calibre.customize.profiles.InputProfile object at 0x11071b710>,
'insert_blank_line': False,
'insert_blank_line_size': 0.5,
'insert_metadata': False,
'isbn': None,
'italicize_common_cases': True,
'keep_ligatures': False,
'language': None,
'level1_toc': None,
'level2_toc': None,
'level3_toc': None,
'line_height': 0.0,
'linearize_tables': False,
'margin_bottom': 5.0,
'margin_left': 5.0,
'margin_right': 5.0,
'margin_top': 5.0,
'markup_chapter_headings': True,
'max_toc_links': 50,
'minimum_line_height': 120.0,
'mobi_file_type': u'old',
'mobi_ignore_margins': False,
'mobi_keep_original_images': False,
'mobi_toc_at_start': False,
'no_chapters_in_toc': False,
'no_inline_navbars': False,
'no_inline_toc': False,
'output_profile': <calibre.customize.profiles.GenericEink object at 0x11071bb10>,
'page_breaks_before': u'/',
'personal_doc': u'[PDOC]',
'prefer_author_sort': False,
'prefer_metadata_cover': False,
'pretty_print': False,
'pubdate': None,
'publisher': None,
'rating': None,
'read_metadata_from_opf': u'/var/folders/vp/jc8vkktd6972tf7splsh6y9r0000gn/T/calibre_0.9.3_tmp_3Ioxec/Eh6_eq.opf',
'remove_fake_margins': True,
'remove_first_image': False,
'remove_paragraph_spacing': False,
'remove_paragraph_spacing_indent_size': 1.5,
'renumber_headings': True,
'replace_scene_breaks': u'',
'search_replace': '[]',
'series': None,
'series_index': None,
'share_not_sync': False,
'smarten_punctuation': False,
'sr1_replace': None,
'sr1_search': None,
'sr2_replace': None,
'sr2_search': None,
'sr3_replace': None,
'sr3_search': None,
'start_reading_at': None,
'tags': None,
'timestamp': None,
'title': None,
'title_sort': None,
'toc_filter': None,
'toc_threshold': 6,
'toc_title': None,
'unsmarten_punctuation': False,
'unwrap_lines': True,
'use_auto_toc': False,
'verbose': 2}
InputFormatPlugin: EPUB Input running
on /var/folders/vp/jc8vkktd6972tf7splsh6y9r0000gn/T/calibre_0.9.3_tmp_3Ioxec/bx32gE.epub
Found HTML cover OEBPS/Text/Section0001.xhtml
Parsing all content...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0027.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0007.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0015.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0016.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0040.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0037.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0033.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0004.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0006.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0019.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0030.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0038.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0028.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0044.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0032.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0048.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0034.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0003.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0045.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0042.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0008.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0011.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0047.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0021.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0046.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0017.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0024.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0023.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0001.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0018.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0035.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0009.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0039.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0005.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0026.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0020.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0013.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0002.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0022.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0043.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0036.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0014.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0029.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0049.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0031.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0010.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0025.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0041.xhtml ...
Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0012.xhtml ...
Spine-referenced file u'OEBPS/Text/Section0001.xhtml' not in spine
Reading TOC from NCX...
Merging user specified metadata...
Detecting structure...
Flattening CSS and remapping font sizes...
Source base font size is 12.00000pt
Removing fake margins...
Found 7 items of level: div_1
Found 77 items of level: p_4
Found 79 items of level: p_2
Found 443 items of level: p_1
div_1 left margin stats: Counter()
div_1 right margin stats: Counter()
p_4 left margin stats: Counter({u'0': 77})
p_4 right margin stats: Counter({u'0': 77})
p_2 left margin stats: Counter({u'0': 79})
p_2 right margin stats: Counter({u'0': 79})
p_1 left margin stats: Counter({u'0': 443})
p_1 right margin stats: Counter({u'0': 443})
Cleaning up manifest...
Trimming unused files from manifest...
Creating MOBI Output...
Serializing resources...
Creating MOBI 6 output
Generating in-line TOC...
Applying case-transforming CSS...
Parsing manglecase.css ...
Parsing tocstyle.css ...
Rasterizing SVG images...
Converting XHTML to Mobipocket markup...
Serializing markup content...
Compressing markup content...
Generating MOBI index for a book
MOBI output written to /var/folders/vp/jc8vkktd6972tf7splsh6y9r0000gn/T/calibre_0.9.3_tmp_3Ioxec/hbl34G.mobi

Now, in the attachment you will see how the tables are looking in Sigil and how they are converted as well as a screenshot of the HTML coding for tables.

Any help is welcome. Please do not waste your time and my time with off topics. Just real help or even ideas.

I also tried to use Kindle generator and the tables worked OK but I had no Table of Contents.

Kind regards,
Sebastian

kovidgoyal · 10-22-2012, 10:37 PM

Convert to azw3, that's what you're seeing when you use kindlegen.

sebdea · 10-23-2012, 06:25 AM

Hi,

That's the problem. As I understand AZW3 files are not read by older devices. While AZW3 is perfect for my needs and as you said the result is extraordinary, conversion to Mobi is a disaster.

The ePub is converted using Calibre. As I said, I might use Kindlegen for conversion but:

1. There is no cover
2. There is no TOC, except the one I create

Thank you for your time and advice.

Sebastian

kovidgoyal · 10-23-2012, 06:31 AM

The reason the table looks good in the kindlegen conversion is becuase kindlegen is generating a combined MOBI with both an azw3 and an older MOBI in it. And your MOBI previewer is using the azw3 version. If you want that kind of MOBI tick the relevant option under MOBI output in the calibre conversion dialog.

sebdea · 10-23-2012, 06:48 AM

I've tried that. Anyway, I tried with kindlegen and the result is perfect. However do you have any idea how to make the cover and TOC to be created with kindlegen? See attachments.

DiapDealer · 10-24-2012, 06:20 AM

Inline TOCs are not automatically generated from an NCX file when converting using kindlegen. There's no way to make it "be created." If you want an inline (html) TOC you must manually create one with links to the various sections of your ePub. The cover needs to be specified in the manner explained in the the official Amazon Kindle Publishing Guidelines (sec. 3.2).

Making extensive use of tables for formatting purposes is not really recommended. It's very easy for an end-user to "blow up" your hard work by simply increasing font-size. Especially on small screens.

Dopedangel · 10-25-2012, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sebdea

I've tried that. Anyway, I tried with kindlegen and the result is perfect. However do you have any idea how to make the cover and TOC to be created with kindlegen? See attachments.

You can add an inline toc to your epub using epub fixer before converting with kindlegen

http://code.google.com/p/epubfixer/

10-22-2012, 02:22 PM	#1
sebdea Member Posts: 21 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: none	Tables go crazy when converted to Mobi Hi all, Here are all the details that might help me find a solution: OS: Apple Sigil version: 0.5.3 Calibre: 0.9.3 Original format: Epub Converted format: Mobi This is the log file: Convert book 1 of 1 (Get That New Job) Resolved conversion options calibre version: 0.9.3 {'asciiize': False, 'author_sort': None, 'authors': None, 'base_font_size': 0.0, 'book_producer': None, 'change_justification': u'original', 'chapter': u"//[((name()='h1' or name()='h2') and re:test(., '\\s((chapter\|book\|section\|part)\\s+)\|((prolog\|pr ologue\|epilogue)(\\s+\|$))', 'i')) or @class = 'chapter']", 'chapter_mark': u'pagebreak', 'comments': None, 'cover': u'/var/folders/vp/jc8vkktd6972tf7splsh6y9r0000gn/T/calibre_0.9.3_tmp_3Ioxec/RCBXEB.jpeg', 'debug_pipeline': None, 'dehyphenate': True, 'delete_blank_paragraphs': True, 'disable_font_rescaling': False, 'dont_compress': False, 'duplicate_links_in_toc': False, 'enable_heuristics': False, 'extra_css': None, 'extract_to': None, 'filter_css': u'', 'fix_indents': True, 'font_size_mapping': None, 'format_scene_breaks': True, 'html_unwrap_factor': 0.4, 'input_encoding': None, 'input_profile': <calibre.customize.profiles.InputProfile object at 0x11071b710>, 'insert_blank_line': False, 'insert_blank_line_size': 0.5, 'insert_metadata': False, 'isbn': None, 'italicize_common_cases': True, 'keep_ligatures': False, 'language': None, 'level1_toc': None, 'level2_toc': None, 'level3_toc': None, 'line_height': 0.0, 'linearize_tables': False, 'margin_bottom': 5.0, 'margin_left': 5.0, 'margin_right': 5.0, 'margin_top': 5.0, 'markup_chapter_headings': True, 'max_toc_links': 50, 'minimum_line_height': 120.0, 'mobi_file_type': u'old', 'mobi_ignore_margins': False, 'mobi_keep_original_images': False, 'mobi_toc_at_start': False, 'no_chapters_in_toc': False, 'no_inline_navbars': False, 'no_inline_toc': False, 'output_profile': <calibre.customize.profiles.GenericEink object at 0x11071bb10>, 'page_breaks_before': u'/', 'personal_doc': u'[PDOC]', 'prefer_author_sort': False, 'prefer_metadata_cover': False, 'pretty_print': False, 'pubdate': None, 'publisher': None, 'rating': None, 'read_metadata_from_opf': u'/var/folders/vp/jc8vkktd6972tf7splsh6y9r0000gn/T/calibre_0.9.3_tmp_3Ioxec/Eh6_eq.opf', 'remove_fake_margins': True, 'remove_first_image': False, 'remove_paragraph_spacing': False, 'remove_paragraph_spacing_indent_size': 1.5, 'renumber_headings': True, 'replace_scene_breaks': u'', 'search_replace': '[]', 'series': None, 'series_index': None, 'share_not_sync': False, 'smarten_punctuation': False, 'sr1_replace': None, 'sr1_search': None, 'sr2_replace': None, 'sr2_search': None, 'sr3_replace': None, 'sr3_search': None, 'start_reading_at': None, 'tags': None, 'timestamp': None, 'title': None, 'title_sort': None, 'toc_filter': None, 'toc_threshold': 6, 'toc_title': None, 'unsmarten_punctuation': False, 'unwrap_lines': True, 'use_auto_toc': False, 'verbose': 2} InputFormatPlugin: EPUB Input running on /var/folders/vp/jc8vkktd6972tf7splsh6y9r0000gn/T/calibre_0.9.3_tmp_3Ioxec/bx32gE.epub Found HTML cover OEBPS/Text/Section0001.xhtml Parsing all content... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0027.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0007.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0015.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0016.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0040.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0037.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0033.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0004.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0006.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0019.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0030.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0038.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0028.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0044.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0032.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0048.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0034.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0003.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0045.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0042.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0008.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0011.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0047.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0021.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0046.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0017.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0024.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0023.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0001.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0018.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0035.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0009.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0039.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0005.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0026.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0020.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0013.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0002.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0022.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0043.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0036.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0014.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0029.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0049.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0031.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0010.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0025.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0041.xhtml ... Parsing OEBPS/Text/Section0012.xhtml ... Spine-referenced file u'OEBPS/Text/Section0001.xhtml' not in spine Reading TOC from NCX... Merging user specified metadata... Detecting structure... Flattening CSS and remapping font sizes... Source base font size is 12.00000pt Removing fake margins... Found 7 items of level: div_1 Found 77 items of level: p_4 Found 79 items of level: p_2 Found 443 items of level: p_1 div_1 left margin stats: Counter() div_1 right margin stats: Counter() p_4 left margin stats: Counter({u'0': 77}) p_4 right margin stats: Counter({u'0': 77}) p_2 left margin stats: Counter({u'0': 79}) p_2 right margin stats: Counter({u'0': 79}) p_1 left margin stats: Counter({u'0': 443}) p_1 right margin stats: Counter({u'0': 443}) Cleaning up manifest... Trimming unused files from manifest... Creating MOBI Output... Serializing resources... Creating MOBI 6 output Generating in-line TOC... Applying case-transforming CSS... Parsing manglecase.css ... Parsing tocstyle.css ... Rasterizing SVG images... Converting XHTML to Mobipocket markup... Serializing markup content... Compressing markup content... Generating MOBI index for a book MOBI output written to /var/folders/vp/jc8vkktd6972tf7splsh6y9r0000gn/T/calibre_0.9.3_tmp_3Ioxec/hbl34G.mobi Now, in the attachment you will see how the tables are looking in Sigil and how they are converted as well as a screenshot of the HTML coding for tables. Any help is welcome. Please do not waste your time and my time with off topics. Just real help or even ideas. I also tried to use Kindle generator and the tables worked OK but I had no Table of Contents. Kind regards, Sebastian Attached Thumbnails

10-23-2012, 06:48 AM	#5
sebdea Member Posts: 21 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: none	I've tried that. Anyway, I tried with kindlegen and the result is perfect. However do you have any idea how to make the cover and TOC to be created with kindlegen? See attachments. Attached Thumbnails

10-24-2012, 06:20 AM	#6
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,547 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Inline TOCs are not automatically generated from an NCX file when converting using kindlegen. There's no way to make it "be created." If you want an inline (html) TOC you must manually create one with links to the various sections of your ePub. The cover needs to be specified in the manner explained in the the official Amazon Kindle Publishing Guidelines (sec. 3.2). Making extensive use of tables for formatting purposes is not really recommended. It's very easy for an end-user to "blow up" your hard work by simply increasing font-size. Especially on small screens. Last edited by DiapDealer; 10-24-2012 at 06:25 AM.

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10-22-2012, 10:37 PM	#2
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,850 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Convert to azw3, that's what you're seeing when you use kindlegen.

10-23-2012, 06:25 AM	#3
sebdea Member Posts: 21 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: none	Hi, That's the problem. As I understand AZW3 files are not read by older devices. While AZW3 is perfect for my needs and as you said the result is extraordinary, conversion to Mobi is a disaster. The ePub is converted using Calibre. As I said, I might use Kindlegen for conversion but: 1. There is no cover 2. There is no TOC, except the one I create Thank you for your time and advice. Sebastian

10-23-2012, 06:31 AM	#4
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,850 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	The reason the table looks good in the kindlegen conversion is becuase kindlegen is generating a combined MOBI with both an azw3 and an older MOBI in it. And your MOBI previewer is using the azw3 version. If you want that kind of MOBI tick the relevant option under MOBI output in the calibre conversion dialog.