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Old 05-22-2009, 01:09 AM   #1
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Smile Enquête sur "Crime et châtiment" de Dostoievski

En regardant l'excellent catalogue d'ebooksgratuits, j'ai vu qu'en 2008, ils ont été contraints, sur les injonctions de l'édition Gallimard, de retirer cette œuvre parce que la traduction française n'était pas libre de droits.

J'ai recherché sur le net une édition française de ce livre (paru en 1866) qui puisse être libre de droits de façon à en faire un livre numérique pour liseuse.

On ne trouve rien sur Gallica. Google Book Search dispose d'un exemplaire ("Le crime et le châtiment") édité par Plon en 1884 (125 ans quand même) et numérisé en 2007 à la bibliothèque d'Oxford. La traduction est de Victor Derély (mort en 1890, il y a 119 ans).
http://books.google.fr/books?id=K60O...G1ZXCCQ&pgis=1
Voilà donc un livre libre de droits même en France si je ne m'abuse.

Curieusement il n'est pas possible de le télécharger chez Google mais simplement de consulter quelques extraits. Je ne sais pas s'il y a un lien mais l'ouvrage a été réédité en français en 2008 par BiblioBazaar avec cette même traduction...
http://books.google.com/books?id=iUw...59161328&hl=fr. Bazaar, vous avez dit bazaar?

Une transcription est en chantier sur Wikisource.
http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Crime_et_Ch%C3%A2timent
Ils en sont pas tout à fait à mi-chemin mais je n'ai pas d'information particulière sur ce type de projet qui semble tout à fait intéressant. J'ai bien transcrit une page mais n'ai pas su sauvegarder mon travail.

J'ai arrêté là mes investigations. Quelqu'un en sait-il davantage?

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Old 05-22-2009, 09:30 AM   #2
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je n'en sais pas davantage mais tiens-nous au courant...

je peux tout de même confirmer, même si la traduction a été réédité, si le texte est dans le domaine public (ce qui paraît indiscutable) ça ne change rien.

j'espère qu'on verra bientôt sortir une belle traduction française libre de droits en ebook...

pour wikisource, je ne sais pas du tout comment ça fonctionne, mais j'imagine qu'il faut se créer un compte pour participer, tu étais bien inscrit / loggé lorsque tu as tenté ta transcription ?
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Old 05-22-2009, 11:10 AM   #3
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tu étais bien inscrit / loggé lorsque tu as tenté ta transcription ?
euh, non, j'ai fait comme d'habitude, j'ai tapé sans savoir, ils m'ont dit qu'ils prendraient mon adresse IP
Je vais regarder à nouveau. Pourquoi pas une page par jour, avant d'aller se coucher? Non, au reveil plutôt,

L'enquête criminelle va se poursuivre...

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Old 05-22-2009, 11:15 AM   #4
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euh, non, j'ai fait comme d'habitude, j'ai tapé sans savoir.
ceci expliquerait peut-être cela.
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excellente idéa ! (moi au réveil je suis pas bonne à grand chose mais chacun ses heures. )
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Bonjour à tous
Tradction de Ergaz sur la Bibliothèque du Québec
reformaté pour Cybook et Sonyreader c'est excellent
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:03 PM   #6
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merci beaucoup aldus pour cette info. saurais-tu si un autre format est prévu ? personnellement, je n'adore pas trop les pdfs, même formattés à la taille de mon éran...
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Jean-Yves Dupuis de la Bibliothèque du Québéc, est en train de mettre en ligne des versions ePub sur Twtr. Demandez lui de mettre ce titre là!
Personnellement, je préfère ces pdfs car ils sont absolument magnifiques pour Sonyreader etCybook!
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