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Old 03-31-2023, 08:47 AM   #1
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Audible Is Now Testing Ads In Your Audiobooks For Some Reason

It’s an experiment with non-paying users, for the time being.

https://www.engadget.com/audible-is-...185337088.html

What the hell???????????????????
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Old 03-31-2023, 03:04 PM   #2
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It’s an experiment with non-paying users, for the time being.

https://www.engadget.com/audible-is-...185337088.html

What the hell???????????????????
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“Audible is dedicated to continuously optimizing how we deliver audio programming to listeners everywhere.”

Oh, good grief. I guess if you go in knowing there will be ads in free or discounted Audible books that would be one thing. But, if you paid full price for a book and got ads in it, I don't think that would make you very happy.

Seems to be a trend with Amazon. I think they used to provide TV shows free of ads on Prime, now a lot of them (or all of them?) have been moved to FreeVee (with ads). Maybe I'm wrong on this, I don't watch many of the TV shows, but the ones I've looked at seem to have been moved to FreeVee.
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Old 04-01-2023, 01:27 AM   #3
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“Audible is dedicated to continuously optimizing how we deliver audio programming to listeners everywhere.”

Oh, good grief. I guess if you go in knowing there will be ads in free or discounted Audible books that would be one thing. But, if you paid full price for a book and got ads in it, I don't think that would make you very happy.

Seems to be a trend with Amazon. I think they used to provide TV shows free of ads on Prime, now a lot of them (or all of them?) have been moved to FreeVee (with ads). Maybe I'm wrong on this, I don't watch many of the TV shows, but the ones I've looked at seem to have been moved to FreeVee.
Freevee started out as IMDb Freedive and then IMDb TV. It's ad-supported, and there is some original content.

I've never seen any ads on Prime Video, apart from promotions for Prime Originals.

Content licensing is subject to churn and it's quite possible that some things were moved over as contracts expire and so forth. But at the same time both services are going to be adding other stuff and other stuff will go away completely.

Getting back to Audible, it used to be a pre-purchase proposition: you paid membership and got to select titles over the course of the subscription term. Audible Plus includes this and an all-you-can-eat selection of titles. And podcasts (some produced by Audible and exclusive to the service).

It makes sense that they would experiment with ad-supported model as well. Everybody else in media streaming that wasn't doing it seems to be doing it now.
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Old 04-01-2023, 07:14 AM   #4
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IMDB is owned by Amazon. Audible is owned by Amazon. Goodreads is owned by Amazon.

Ads in audiobooks is abusive. Ad breaks inside Radio programs or pod casts are abusive.

At least on TV or Streaming you can mute the audio. Also nasty is the compression on Youtube, streaming and TV to make the adverts "louder" than the content.
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Old 04-01-2023, 09:59 AM   #5
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I feel like lots of these Amazon changes stem from Jeff stepping down.

I'm no fan of Jeff Bezos. But Amazon's visionary has stepped down and now they are becoming a much more typical corporation.
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Old 04-02-2023, 11:11 AM   #6
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Freevee started out as IMDb Freedive and then IMDb TV. It's ad-supported, and there is some original content.

I've never seen any ads on Prime Video, apart from promotions for Prime Originals.
If I remember correctly, they used to have TV shows (not their own) on Prime that were ad free. IMDB Freedive (and FreeVee) came along later.

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I'm no fan of Jeff Bezos. But Amazon's visionary has stepped down and now they are becoming a much more typical corporation.
I think it's got something to do with the downturn in business for Amazon. There's been layoffs and abandoned (new) buildings. We have one locally in Idaho that was going to be a delivery center that never opened (even though it's built). It's not like Amazon is in danger of going belly up, but their growth is definitely slowing.
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Old 04-02-2023, 12:51 PM   #7
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"Non-paying members"? Who are they?

My sense from the article is that you get the ads if you use an Audible app--because it refers to the number of ads during a 24-hour period. Which makes me happy to continue not using the app.
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"Non-paying members"? Who are they?

My sense from the article is that you get the ads if you use an Audible app--because it refers to the number of ads during a 24-hour period. Which makes me happy to continue not using the app.
Yes, I think ads can be counter productive. When I didn't have an active membership, there was no avoiding the huge 'sign up' ads.

Even without them the Audible app is a mess, the Library filters don't really work properly, it is effectively impossible to know which things are purchased, which are Audible Plus borrows, which are KU borrows, and it has been this way for at least a couple of years now.

Fortunately there is OpenAudible, so I don't need to use it to listen. Probably not going to renew this time around, I have quite a backlog to work through.

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Old 04-05-2023, 04:50 PM   #9
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I'm no fan of Jeff Bezos. But Amazon's visionary has stepped down and now they are becoming a much more typical corporation.
So true. So many changes since, and hardly any for the better.

If they want to offer some free audio for non-paying members, ads aren't a bad alternative - BUT I wouldn't keep paying for Audible subscription if they put ads in their streaming catalogue or purchases. I already have to deal with ads in podcasts with Spotify, and that's annoying enough already.
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I don't use Audible because it's too expensive for what you get IMHO. But if they decide to put ads in it, I can't imagine how they could make it any less appealing. Maybe they're trying to sink it on purpose? I can't imagine how anyone would pay for a subscription AND put up with ads on top of that. Amazon must be counting on really desperate customers I guess.
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I'll worry about it when, or if, I have to. I'm guessing no one with a paid subscription need worry.
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From Audible - https://help.audible.com/s/article/w...language=en_US

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We are currently conducting limited testing for non-members only that provides ad-supported access to a limited set of Audible titles.
It sounds to me like they're considering an ad-supported membership tier — i.e., lower subscription price in exchange for limited ads, much like some streaming services do (and no one seems to complain about that). Like such streaming services, I'm guessing there will be an ad-free tier for those willing to pay full membership price.

If they do proceed with ads, I'm hoping it only applies to Audible Plus (or some other subscription/membership model like Audible Plus). I find it hard to believe it would apply to audiobooks you purchase outright.

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I listen to a lot of audiobooks and have been a member with Audible for years, I have the 24 credits per year option getting them all in one go and can spend them whenever I wish. I always run out and Audible always offer me more credits for £3.99 each which is fantastic value imho.

However the very first thing I do after purchase is download the book and run it through InAudible (Mods feel free to remove the name if it's not allowed to be mentioned) to strip the DRM so I can play it on any device and use any application I wish as the Audible app is absolutely awful.

If you're not using the app I can't see how ads would work as if you authorise something like iTunes to play your audible books there's nothing connecting to Audibles servers to insert ads once the book is in your app of choice even if you haven't stripped the DRM and you happen to let your membership lapse.
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It sounds to me like they're considering an ad-supported membership tier — i.e., lower subscription price in exchange for limited ads, much like some streaming services do (and no one seems to complain about that). Like such streaming services, I'm guessing there will be an ad-free tier for those willing to pay full membership price.

If they do proceed with ads, I'm hoping it only applies to Audible Plus (or some other subscription/membership model like Audible Plus). I find it hard to believe it would apply to audiobooks you purchase outright.
Right. If it's a free tier, it won't affect me and this model makes sense for those who don't want to pay a membership free but would still like the audio.

I would have an issue if ads were introduced in the premium plus titles, though, as I mainly keep a membership fee up for that choice.

I doubt they would put in ads for books purchased with credit or cash.
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