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That sounds like a WAG (Wild A$$ Guess). How much heavier and how much thicker? My WAG is no noticeable amount for a decently engineered design. The greatest contributors to weight and thickness are the battery itself and the display assembly, and those do not change using the cheaper non user replaceable battery.
A non user replaceable battery primarily just reduces manufacturing costs and increases the profit realized from replacing a cheap battery for a much greater than cheap price when and if the user needs it. |
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and just who the heck was I "attacking"? My comment was a general observation. Now if you feel it applies to you then perhaps a small vacation from the 100+ posts/day is in order.
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Just where would one find a receptacle on a pack fishing trip that stays around 9K-10K ft? And forget taking something like a slate device on which to read. Now Toshiba gets it, business users and those who actually use the beasts as mobile devices will appreciate this return to sanity by at least one brand. But feel free to go fondle your petite "sub-half-incher". I'm sure it at least makes you happy and that is all that matters, right? |
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Only that the Toshiba was thicker and heavier, there was no proof offered that the user replaceable battery had any effect at all on weight and thickness. The battery and display are the main contributors to those values, so a non user replaceable battery is still a sign of cheaper construction practices.
But now that you mention it again, there is another serious advantage to a user replaceable battery. Two batteries have twice the run time of one, and all you have to do is reload. |
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And it's that steady decline in capacity that screams for the need to add a backup battery or two staggering the purchase then setup a rotation so they wear at an even rate. I prefer three. My laptops all have the extended 12hrs wedge batteries and combined with the standard batteries. When new batteries are bought I get from 12-16hrs with wifi, browsing and streaming on a 17" 4-5yr old HP nx-series laptop. And I am getting ready to by a few new sets next month and the original sets are now down to about 2-3hrs runtime. But the good news is I do not lose portability, why? Because there are backups in the bag, car, room or pack. I have backup batteries for my MP3 players and any other portable devices. That's my my Creative Zen Jukebox Xtra is still going strong after about 8-yrs now. That and my updated the HDD to a spare 100GB drive from an old laptop. Who knows I might even up it to 250GB next time I am in the mood. I paid over $400 for the thing but fully expected a decade or more use of it. No reason it should not last that long. Again I completely do not understand why anyone would find fault with the desire to maintain and have devices which last for decades not months or a couple years. Remember, it's not like we all have money trees in Daddy's wallet. |
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Then why is the trend to move away from them?
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Looking at phones you can easily see that others can fit user replaceable batteries with the same or higher capacities into the same form factor as the iphone, with no increase in weight. So all this is for the benefits of shareholders, not users. |
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Since it has been a couple decades since I bought my last cell phone. Are the now charging battery disposal fees when you buy the device? You know like the whole BS fee for modern monitors due to Hg used in the CCFL tubes. None use lead solder anymore so it's all in the tubes. I bought an extra LCD last week and was smacked at the register for that mandatory fee. Like it will ever serve the reason used to justify the fee.
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