KUAL buttons as books?

TheFattie · 02-26-2016, 02:57 AM

Just like Collection Manager, is there any way to directly access a KUAL button like a book/Active Content?

Or is it the other way, and KUAL launches the Active Content?

eschwartz · 02-26-2016, 11:11 AM

KUAL buttons cannot be made into Active Content "books".

Some KUAL buttons like Collections Manager are designed to start another Active Content "book" anyway. Those can simply be used through their Active Content launcher without using KUAL at all.
However, most KUAL buttons are written in bash/python and can only be started using KUAL (or Aeris' Native Menu launcher).

irreld · 03-19-2016, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

KUAL buttons cannot be made into Active Content "books".

Some KUAL buttons like Collections Manager are designed to start another Active Content "book" anyway. Those can simply be used through their Active Content launcher without using KUAL at all.
However, most KUAL buttons are written in bash/python and can only be started using KUAL (or Aeris' Native Menu launcher).

I also have similar problems. Active Contents -> KUAL -> kterm is a long way to go if I need kterm (almost) every day. Is it possible to build another azw2 (or a template) to start kterm.sh (any script) like KUAL does using runtime.getexec() or something else blah blah blah?

eschwartz · 03-20-2016, 12:32 AM

You could.

Personally, I prefer Aeris' "Native Kindle Menu", Android-style dropdown which is a lot more responsive since it simply injects custom HTML into the homescreen

knc1 · 03-20-2016, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

You could.

Personally, I prefer Aeris' "Native Kindle Menu", Android-style dropdown which is a lot more responsive since it simply injects custom HTML into the homescreen

I thought she already included kTerm in her menu collection.

Oh, and once you install her menu, you can select the menu items in KUAL also (by design).

eschwartz · 03-20-2016, 01:18 AM

She did.

knc1 · 03-20-2016, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

She did.

For those who missed it -
Aeris is one of the people who used a Kindle to learn HTML5/CSS2/JavaScript and then went on to do the same type of work at a 'day job'.

Inside of that little e-book reader is an example of a very complex, modern, computer system.
And a Kindle is a lot cheaper than professional, 'development board', learning tools.

Plus - you can use it to read books if you ever get laid off from your 'day job'.

pete330 · 03-21-2016, 11:43 AM

Did you geht Native Kindle Menu to work on 5.7.3.1? I tried it today, but these things didn't work: actually starting any app (though the apps work when started via their KUAL menu entries); the status bar shortcut doesn't work, too. What does actually work is displaying the Native Kindle Menu itself when triggered via its KUAL menu entry. But when I tap on any app, like GCalculator, the menu closes and the Kindle Home Screen is displayed.

knc1 · 03-21-2016, 12:04 PM

Other than the things on NiLuJe's snapshots thread, we do not do proactive maintenance here.

Everything else, we wait for a trouble report (and hope the reporter has time to help us fix whatever went wrong).

I.E: We don't have a centralized build, release and distribute system at Mobileread.
Each author maintains their own work on an 'as needed' basis.

For authors that have become in-active, this can mean a bit of delay until someone else picks up the maintenance chore.
(One of the reasons every author posts their sources in public repositories - so anyone else can get at it to fix it.)

eschwartz · 03-21-2016, 12:08 PM

Someone who uses Aeris' Native Menu and has a >=5.6.5 device will need to put in the work to fix it.

pete330 · 03-21-2016, 12:18 PM

Hi, many thanks for the reply, I am aware of that, I built the working gargoyle version for >= 5.6.5 and posted it here. Since the native kindle menu was recommended above I was just interested to find out if I am the only one having the problems I mentioned in my first post. I can/should start a new thread for that.

knc1 · 03-21-2016, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete330

Hi, many thanks for the reply, I am aware of that, I built the working gargoyle version for >= 5.6.5 and posted it here. Since the native kindle menu was recommended above I was just interested to find out if I am the only one having the problems I mentioned in my first post. I can/should start a new thread for that.

I seem to recall seeing a post here where the menu items that where working and the ones that where broke was listed.

Note: that the 'battery icon tweak' has been broken for quite some time (time counted in firmware versions).

eschwartz · 03-21-2016, 12:30 PM

I think the individual thread for the battery percentage had some mention of breaking changes in the firmware.

Anyway -- try posting in the Native Menu thread, see if any other users respond. Or Aeris might return.
If nothing else, document your efforts together with the hack.

02-26-2016, 02:57 AM	#1
TheFattie Connoisseur Posts: 51 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2016 Device: Kindle 7th gen	KUAL buttons as books? Just like Collection Manager, is there any way to directly access a KUAL button like a book/Active Content? Or is it the other way, and KUAL launches the Active Content?

03-21-2016, 11:43 AM	#8
pete330 Connoisseur Posts: 66 Karma: 200233 Join Date: Aug 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Did you geht Native Kindle Menu to work on 5.7.3.1? I tried it today, but these things didn't work: actually starting any app (though the apps work when started via their KUAL menu entries); the status bar shortcut doesn't work, too. What does actually work is displaying the Native Kindle Menu itself when triggered via its KUAL menu entry. But when I tap on any app, like GCalculator, the menu closes and the Kindle Home Screen is displayed. Last edited by pete330; 03-21-2016 at 11:49 AM.

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02-26-2016, 11:11 AM	#2
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	KUAL buttons cannot be made into Active Content "books". Some KUAL buttons like Collections Manager are designed to start another Active Content "book" anyway. Those can simply be used through their Active Content launcher without using KUAL at all. However, most KUAL buttons are written in bash/python and can only be started using KUAL (or Aeris' Native Menu launcher).

03-20-2016, 12:32 AM	#4
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	You could. Personally, I prefer Aeris' "Native Kindle Menu", Android-style dropdown which is a lot more responsive since it simply injects custom HTML into the homescreen

03-20-2016, 01:18 AM	#6
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	She did.

03-21-2016, 12:04 PM	#9
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	Other than the things on NiLuJe's snapshots thread, we do not do proactive maintenance here. Everything else, we wait for a trouble report (and hope the reporter has time to help us fix whatever went wrong). I.E: We don't have a centralized build, release and distribute system at Mobileread. Each author maintains their own work on an 'as needed' basis. For authors that have become in-active, this can mean a bit of delay until someone else picks up the maintenance chore. (One of the reasons every author posts their sources in public repositories - so anyone else can get at it to fix it.)

03-21-2016, 12:08 PM	#10
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Someone who uses Aeris' Native Menu and has a >=5.6.5 device will need to put in the work to fix it.

03-21-2016, 12:18 PM	#11
pete330 Connoisseur Posts: 66 Karma: 200233 Join Date: Aug 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Hi, many thanks for the reply, I am aware of that, I built the working gargoyle version for >= 5.6.5 and posted it here. Since the native kindle menu was recommended above I was just interested to find out if I am the only one having the problems I mentioned in my first post. I can/should start a new thread for that.

03-21-2016, 12:30 PM	#13
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	I think the individual thread for the battery percentage had some mention of breaking changes in the firmware. Anyway -- try posting in the Native Menu thread, see if any other users respond. Or Aeris might return. If nothing else, document your efforts together with the hack.