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Old 06-11-2019, 09:42 AM   #196
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I don't know what "Neonode zForce" means...
Neonode zForce was one of my favorite shows as a kid
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:55 PM   #197
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I don't know what "Neonode zForce" means
Neonode is the company, zForce is their scheme of using IR interruption for touch.

The original Nook Simple Touch exposed internal values from the driver as:
/sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0050/ledlevel
If I remember correctly, it actually used a TI MSP430 to do the scanning.

The Glow3 uses the NN1001 (main controller) and NN2003 (expander?) chips.
The Glow 3 had the driver here, but no usable values:
/sys/devices/platform/imx-i2c.1/i2c-1/1-0050

The values are useful as I had a little app to visualize the IR paths to help you determine where the cruft had collected in the bezel.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:15 PM   #198
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This looks really good. Does the nook software allow you to sideload your own fonts? The good e reader review makes no mention of it.
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:35 PM   #199
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This looks really good. Does the nook software allow you to sideload your own fonts? The good e reader review makes no mention of it.
AFAIR, none of the B&N Nook eInk ereaders allow adding fonts other than by embedding them in the epub file.

OTOH, I have now read comments/reviews that have stated the new Nook 7.8" is lighter than the Kobo Aura One or Kobo Forma—evidently, 297gms is now lighter than 230gms (KA1) or 197gms (KF), has a bigger screen than either Kobo product and that embedding fonts using calibre is a superior solution to Amazon or Kobo devices that allow you to sideload fonts making them available to any book that doesn't lock font selection.

Makes you appreciate Nate even more.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:40 AM   #200
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Thanks for the link. Good E-Reader is not normally my first stop, but this seems to be a pretty complete review. One thing mentioned in the review is that the Glowlight 7.8 does use IR not capacitive touch.

It does not have a capacitive touchscreen display, instead it is employing Neonode zForce IR.

I don't know what "Neonode zForce" means, but this would probably account for the fact that the screen looks almost identical in clarity to its smaller brother, the Glowlight 3.
Apparently some type of IR that only works with your finger or a capacitive stylus.
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Old 06-12-2019, 04:05 PM   #201
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Neonode zForce was one of my favorite shows as a kid
I just realized Neonode used to make cell phones. One of their earlier touch screen models was used in the Android/Apple lawsuits to show that Apple hadn't been the first to ... something ... I think implement the swiping gesture. It's been too long ago to remember for sure.

So does anyone know if "zForce IR" is any different than the IR we've been using for years?
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Old 06-12-2019, 04:07 PM   #202
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Apparently some type of IR that only works with your finger or a capacitive stylus.
Are you saying it is actually capacitive (as first reported)?
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:33 PM   #203
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Given the number of reviews that I've seen (goodereader, pcmag or whatever it was, that youtube review, which as far as I can tell is still the only video review) I don't think that's a good sign for the nook ecosystem.

Then again, B&N didn't seem to handle the launch well.
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Old 06-13-2019, 02:43 AM   #204
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Given the number of reviews that I've seen (goodereader, pcmag or whatever it was, that youtube review, which as far as I can tell is still the only video review) I don't think that's a good sign for the nook ecosystem.

Then again, B&N didn't seem to handle the launch well.
Still, it's odd that there are almost no reviews on a new 7.8" eReader. Barnes & Noble may not have much of their market share left, but their share is still bigger than Kobo's in the U.S. and Kobo seems to get a lot more press.
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Old 06-13-2019, 02:55 AM   #205
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Are you sure nook still has more marketshare given kobo's walmart partnership?
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Old 06-13-2019, 02:59 AM   #206
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Are you saying it is actually capacitive (as first reported)?
Yes. The Glowlight 3 is IR and the new Glowlight Plus is capacitive.
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:45 AM   #207
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Yes. The Glowlight 3 is IR and the new Glowlight Plus is capacitive.
Where did you get this info from? If it indeed has Neonode zForce IR then
it uses infrared emitters and there is no capacitive layer on the screen

Btw, Goodereader posted a comparison video of the new GL Plus and and Forma yesterday

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What I said before about the Nook Simple Touch and Glow3 being IR is true.

The Glow4 (7.8") is capacitive using the "Kotl" brand capacitive sensor.
It has nothing to do with Neonode or zForce
This is based on a teardown that I did.
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It's been too long since I've been on MR! An entire reader has been announced and released and I missed the whole thing. My, those bezels. I guess the side bezels are sort of necessary but please the top and bottom are way too chunky. Looks like an ereader from 2010.
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Yes. The Glowlight 3 is IR and the new Glowlight Plus is capacitive.
Okay. Thanks for the clarification. So Good-EReader got it wrong.

EDIT: I see by what Renate wrote that "they" definitely got it wrong.

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