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Old 10-15-2018, 07:02 PM   #1
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Incarcerated Pennsylvanians now have to pay $150 to read.

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Old 10-15-2018, 07:15 PM   #2
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Wow, that's a nasty one.

So, in addition to the financial issues (which are certainly not a small problem for many of them), it means they don't have a list of forbidden books that, for some reason, are denied to inmates - instead they have a list of authorized books, and anything not on the list is just forbidden.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:15 AM   #3
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Sounds like the Playaway Lock ereader -- preloaded, no connectivity, limited selection and pay through the nose either up front or annual renewals. Hey, if it is good enough for the USMC, USAF and US Navy, it's good enough for criminals.
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This policy is outrageous. Reading material should be free for inmates. Policies like this only help to further alienate and antagonize inmates who'll eventually return to society feeling resentful and very ticked off.

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want angry ex-cons being released into society.

(btw, this thread should be moved to the P&R forum)
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Old 10-16-2018, 05:46 AM   #5
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Sounds like the Playaway Lock ereader -- preloaded, no connectivity, limited selection and pay through the nose either up front or annual renewals. Hey, if it is good enough for the USMC, USAF and US Navy, it's good enough for criminals.
I know this is probably sarcastic, but just for the record:

Don't strive down, strive up!

If we accept this reader as the lowest acceptable, and consider military to be better than criminals, then it follows that they should have better than this.
(The key view being: the military should have more than the criminals. NOT that the criminals should have less.
The end result is the same, but the difference is that in one case you take something away, and in the other you add something.
Why destroy if you can build.)

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This policy is outrageous. Reading material should be free for inmates. Policies like this only help to further alienate and antagonize inmates who'll eventually return to society feeling resentful and very ticked off.

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want angry ex-cons being released into society.
I fully agree!
What are the inmates supposed to do, sit on their thumbs all day and philosophize about their misdeeds?

People who think that probably also think that the poor should simply starve with dignity instead of becoming criminal or doing "morally ambigous" things.

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Nooo! I don't want to lose this thread.
I've been in the P&R before, and it's not a nice place.
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:14 AM   #6
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I agree with the need to eliminate the ability to smuggle drugs into prisons by soaking them into the paper of books.

I hate the sleazy way that was turned into a new method to profit from the incarceration of prisoners.
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I agree with the need to eliminate the ability to smuggle drugs into prisons by soaking them into the paper of books.

I hate the sleazy way that was turned into a new method to profit from the incarceration of prisoners.
I think they're afraid that inmates will smuggle in epub files laced with virtual narcotics
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I know, this stuff really irks me.

And a lot of what they are charged for is public domain.

I had shared articles over the years on bizarre censorship. where allowed to happen, it will.
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I know, this stuff really irks me.

And a lot of what they are charged for is public domain.

I had shared articles over the years on bizarre censorship. where allowed to happen, it will.
This isn't censorship, this is trying to profit from a (literally) captive audience.
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I wonder how much trouble one could get into for drone bombing preloaded ebook readers onto prison yards....
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I wonder how much trouble one could get into for drone bombing preloaded ebook readers onto prison yards....
Criminal trespassing, littering, smuggling contraband, etc
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Criminal trespassing, littering, smuggling contraband, etc
“The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.”

― Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome
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Absolute criminality by authority. Follow the money. Where's the kick-back?

As Pennsylvania residents they should be able to borrow ebooks from the Free Library of Philadelphia. So for the cost of a Kindle or tablet they could read or even cheaply buy a plethora of books.

I can understand that their may be a problem with contraband drugs, etc. but this solution is madness - or pilfering.
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(btw, this thread should be moved to the P&R forum)

I've been in the P&R before, and it's not a nice place.

Amen to that. There was a nice thread going on movies made from books. Moved to a forum. Never heard from again.
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This isn't censorship, this is trying to profit from a (literally) captive audience.
I meant actual censorship articles I've read over the years, like The Color Purple and Diary of Anne Frank being banned from prisons. This particular movement to only offer a selection of books for purchase controls the reading material and makes it easier to not get publicity turning away books they are banning.

For instance, banning The color Purple, Charlie Brown's Christmas, John Grisham. Alabama banned Slavery By another Name because it talks about unfair racial issues in the country, and Florida banned The New Jim Crow because it puts down some mass incarceration based on the drug war and racial issues. Michigan banned another book that talks about racism, Black Skin, White Masks

With a limited e-book selection and the devices, they can now filter the content even easier while making a profit of it.
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