PRS-950 PRS-950 areas of faded text in landscape orientation

sovre · 12-01-2011, 05:52 PM

I recently began experiencing a problem while viewing books in landscape orientation: text appearing at the the very top and at the very bottom of the screen is faded. Along these bands at the top and bottom, instead of seeing solid black text, I see light gray dots. I read often in landscape mode and have never had these bands of faded text appear before--but I can't think of any change I made in my reader settings that would have caused it.

Anyone have any idea what might be causing this? Thanks in advance for any fix that might be offered.

Ripplinger · 12-01-2011, 05:59 PM

It sounds like a setting in PRS+ (that's if you have it installed), where overlapping text from one to the next is grayed out. I don't read in landscape mode myself, but would certainly prefer not to have to re-read the same lines to realize I'm repeating what I just read, which is why PRS+ added this feature.

sovre · 12-01-2011, 06:07 PM

Yes, I have PRS+. So that must be it. Thanks for letting me know. I didn't even realize that was a feature. I remember seeing the option for turning overlapping text on/off in the settings but it I didn't know what it was for. Now that I know the purpose of it I will have to experiment with it a bit more and decide whether I like it or not.

Ripplinger · 12-01-2011, 06:45 PM

I think you'll like the feature turned on once you realize how it works.

ring0_event · 12-01-2011, 08:30 PM

Actually, the feature does not seem to work for me, as unread lines appear to be grayed out. A future PRS+ will allow this setting to be changed, thank God:

http://code.google.com/p/prs-plus/wiki/FeatureRequests

Quote:

Accepted
Improve PDF viewing on x50, allow paging in "zoom lock" mode, "where was I" marker, allow to cut "more" of margins, etc.

Mark Nord · 12-02-2011, 02:25 AM

See how it is suposed to work here

Option was introduced with PRS+ 2.0.14, but there was a bug having it mask unwanted areas at the PRS-950, fixed and working since PRS+2.0.15RC for all models.

ring0_event · 12-02-2011, 08:54 AM

Thank you for the information! In that case, I wonder what the "where was I" marker in the accepted change which I cited above...

Mark Nord · 12-02-2011, 09:05 AM

Sorry, the "Don't mask overlap" feature isn't directly related to the accepted FR you cited.

It "just" enables (and fixed) a feature already in the original Sony-Code. This type of masking was used as standard with the 505/300/600 models, and was disabled for the x50 series.
Another approach to extend the pdf-capabilities is quisvir's "Pan while zoomlocked", but again this isn't directly related to mentioned FR.
Lets see what time will bring up....

PS: and btw you can set "Don't mask overlap" to "true" and the greyout is gone

ring0_event · 12-02-2011, 09:44 AM

Ah, I took the "where was I" marker to mean that PRS+ would allow the user to configure overlap management (like turn it OFF, as the Kindle has, which I like for text PDFs). Am I wrong?
If there is overlap, then I do want it grayed out, but I would prefer to be able to disable overlap for text PDFs.

ring0_event · 12-02-2011, 10:49 AM

OK, my questions roundup:
a) Why is there overlap at all in landscape mode? On my Kindle3 there is no overlap.
b) Is there a way to to turn overlap off?
c) Does anyone know what "where was I" which I cited above from the accepted feature means?

Analogus · 12-02-2011, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ring0_event

OK, my questions roundup:
a) Why is there overlap at all in landscape mode? On my Kindle3 there is no overlap.

Guessing:

1) Sony is just dividing the screen in 2 parts for landscape mode
2) If 600*800 would be the 'Golden Ratio' - no problem, no overlapping
3) 600*800 is not the 'Golden Ratio' (which number is 1,618) but 1,333
4) So if you just divide the page in 2 parts and try to visualize it on the same display with 600*800 px, there are ~67 unusable pixels in height
5) This unusable pixels are the 'overlapping' area

A.

ring0_event · 12-02-2011, 12:10 PM

In other words, if it's just an implementation detail without some higher goal in mind, it's a very poor implementation as compared to my Kindle3's landscape mode (which I tried for PDFs only).

Analogus · 12-02-2011, 12:42 PM

Yes, that's rather poor as you say...

And maybe that's the reason for the bigger fonts in landscape mode for ePub's. The software just splits the screen, turn this now 2 parts 90° - ready.

A.

ring0_event · 12-02-2011, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Nord

See how it is suposed to work here

Option was introduced with PRS+ 2.0.14, but there was a bug having it mask unwanted areas at the PRS-950, fixed and working since PRS+2.0.15RC for all models.

Confirmed, it works properly now. I'd rather there be no overlap at all, but the graying out of overlapped parts is better than nothing.

12-01-2011, 05:52 PM	#1
sovre Zealot Posts: 108 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: United States Device: iPad Mini; iPhone; Kindle Paperwhite (10th gen)	PRS-950 areas of faded text in landscape orientation I recently began experiencing a problem while viewing books in landscape orientation: text appearing at the the very top and at the very bottom of the screen is faded. Along these bands at the top and bottom, instead of seeing solid black text, I see light gray dots. I read often in landscape mode and have never had these bands of faded text appear before--but I can't think of any change I made in my reader settings that would have caused it. Anyone have any idea what might be causing this? Thanks in advance for any fix that might be offered. Last edited by sovre; 12-01-2011 at 06:02 PM.

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12-01-2011, 05:59 PM	#2
Ripplinger 350 Hoarder Posts: 3,574 Karma: 8281267 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Midwest USA Device: Sony PRS-350, Kobo Glo & Glo HD, PW2	It sounds like a setting in PRS+ (that's if you have it installed), where overlapping text from one to the next is grayed out. I don't read in landscape mode myself, but would certainly prefer not to have to re-read the same lines to realize I'm repeating what I just read, which is why PRS+ added this feature.

12-01-2011, 06:07 PM	#3
sovre Zealot Posts: 108 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: United States Device: iPad Mini; iPhone; Kindle Paperwhite (10th gen)	Yes, I have PRS+. So that must be it. Thanks for letting me know. I didn't even realize that was a feature. I remember seeing the option for turning overlapping text on/off in the settings but it I didn't know what it was for. Now that I know the purpose of it I will have to experiment with it a bit more and decide whether I like it or not.

12-01-2011, 06:45 PM	#4
Ripplinger 350 Hoarder Posts: 3,574 Karma: 8281267 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Midwest USA Device: Sony PRS-350, Kobo Glo & Glo HD, PW2	I think you'll like the feature turned on once you realize how it works.

12-02-2011, 02:25 AM	#6
Mark Nord 2B \|\| !2B Posts: 851 Karma: 194010 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Austria Device: Sony PRS505/650/T1/tolino vision 5	See how it is suposed to work here Option was introduced with PRS+ 2.0.14, but there was a bug having it mask unwanted areas at the PRS-950, fixed and working since PRS+2.0.15RC for all models.

12-02-2011, 08:54 AM	#7
ring0_event Zealot Posts: 142 Karma: 39918 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Kindle3 (3G), PRS-950 (x2), PRS-T1	Thank you for the information! In that case, I wonder what the "where was I" marker in the accepted change which I cited above...

12-02-2011, 09:05 AM	#8
Mark Nord 2B \|\| !2B Posts: 851 Karma: 194010 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Austria Device: Sony PRS505/650/T1/tolino vision 5	Sorry, the "Don't mask overlap" feature isn't directly related to the accepted FR you cited. It "just" enables (and fixed) a feature already in the original Sony-Code. This type of masking was used as standard with the 505/300/600 models, and was disabled for the x50 series. Another approach to extend the pdf-capabilities is quisvir's "Pan while zoomlocked", but again this isn't directly related to mentioned FR. Lets see what time will bring up.... PS: and btw you can set "Don't mask overlap" to "true" and the greyout is gone

12-02-2011, 09:44 AM	#9
ring0_event Zealot Posts: 142 Karma: 39918 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Kindle3 (3G), PRS-950 (x2), PRS-T1	Ah, I took the "where was I" marker to mean that PRS+ would allow the user to configure overlap management (like turn it OFF, as the Kindle has, which I like for text PDFs). Am I wrong? If there is overlap, then I do want it grayed out, but I would prefer to be able to disable overlap for text PDFs.

12-02-2011, 10:49 AM	#10
ring0_event Zealot Posts: 142 Karma: 39918 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Kindle3 (3G), PRS-950 (x2), PRS-T1	OK, my questions roundup: a) Why is there overlap at all in landscape mode? On my Kindle3 there is no overlap. b) Is there a way to to turn overlap off? c) Does anyone know what "where was I" which I cited above from the accepted feature means?

12-02-2011, 12:10 PM	#12
ring0_event Zealot Posts: 142 Karma: 39918 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Kindle3 (3G), PRS-950 (x2), PRS-T1	In other words, if it's just an implementation detail without some higher goal in mind, it's a very poor implementation as compared to my Kindle3's landscape mode (which I tried for PDFs only).

12-02-2011, 12:42 PM	#13
Analogus Fanatic Posts: 568 Karma: 2170348 Join Date: Apr 2011 Device: 2x Sony PRS-350; PRS-300 (†), Paperwhite (†), Voyage	Yes, that's rather poor as you say... And maybe that's the reason for the bigger fonts in landscape mode for ePub's. The software just splits the screen, turn this now 2 parts 90° - ready. A.

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