Samsung Galaxy Note - the total package? - Page 10

HansTWN · 07-10-2012, 06:55 PM

My guess is that the next version will have the same outer dimensions, they will just slightly reduce the bezel. And that would be a good thing. They should also get a better screen, that green tinge doesn't look nice.

wodin · 07-10-2012, 07:31 PM

I heard that the width will actually be slightly narrower. I’m not quite sure how they will accomplish that as the side bezels are a bit too small already. When I’m holding it by the edges my fingers overlap a bit to the front and cause inadvertent touches.

HansTWN · 07-10-2012, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wodin

I heard that the width will actually be slightly narrower. I’m not quite sure how they will accomplish that as the side bezels are a bit too small already. When I’m holding it by the edges my fingers overlap a bit to the front and cause inadvertent touches.

Maybe they will just make the screen longer? There is plenty of bezel at the top and bottom.

Kumabjorn · 07-11-2012, 12:25 AM

Would the screen enlargement enable them to put another icon in a row or a new row of icons?
I find that doubtful, and that would also mean less of an appeal to those who already have a Note I would assume. I don't see a huge improvement in terms of view-ability for video, eBooks or e-mail with a slightly larger screen. Seems more like chasing numbers then.

HansTWN · 07-11-2012, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

Would the screen enlargement enable them to put another icon in a row or a new row of icons?
I find that doubtful, and that would also mean less of an appeal to those who already have a Note I would assume. I don't see a huge improvement in terms of view-ability for video, eBooks or e-mail with a slightly larger screen. Seems more like chasing numbers then.

With a different launcher you could slightly resize the icons and squeeze an additional row of icons out of it. Anyway, I think optimizing the ratio of screen to bezel is definitely a good thing. Obviously not enough to get people to upgrade from the Note 1, but it might entice prospective new buyers to take the plunge.

tubemonkey · 07-11-2012, 02:16 AM

I'll pay $250 for a wifi only Note.

dura · 07-12-2012, 06:11 AM

I hope they keep the 16:10 ratio instead of the more common 16:9.
It gives an extra 10% screen wide, which is very welcome when reading.

wodin · 07-12-2012, 01:24 PM

Well, I upgraded my Note to ICS last night. I don't see much difference in terms of usability, but it does seem a bit more "polished".

The upgrade process was somewhat more arduous than I’ve seen before. They don’t have an OTA upgrade path, and it must be done on a PC or Mac (I saw a post where someone did in on a Linux box using Wine) using Kies (Samsung’s answer to iTunes). Samsung’s servers are a bit busy right now, and it took me more than an hour to download and install Kies, but once that was done it went smoothly.

My Note preserved all my data and apps, and automatically upgraded any apps that have newer versions for ICS, but it didn’t preserve my home screen icons, so I had to go through the hassle of re-doing that. It also didn’t preserve my Bluetooth pairings, I didn’t realize that until I was on my way to work this morning and my hands free didn’t pair.

Since I only upgraded last night, I don’t have a feel for battery life yet, the propaganda says it should improve; we’ll see.

Kumabjorn · 07-12-2012, 01:28 PM

You did get an upgraded Note taker, called S-Note which is more versatile than S-Memo. It works with objects and integrates them better. You now also have the capability to turn push messages on and off. My update came OTA, with all the military installations you guys have I would assume you have an advanced cellular network.

wodin · 07-12-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

You did get an upgraded Note taker, called S-Note which is more versatile than S-Memo. It works with objects and integrates them better. You now also have the capability to turn push messages on and off. My update came OTA, with all the military installations you guys have I would assume you have an advanced cellular network.

I haven't looked into the "Premium Suite" yet, but I'm sure I either have it already or can install it. My Note is the LTE version on AT&T. AT&T is not doing it OTA (yet), like the international version.

I'll need to look into turning off push messages, I don't have free SMS on my plan, and it p* me off every time I have to pay $0.20 for a spam text.

Kumabjorn · 07-12-2012, 02:46 PM

They can charge you for receiving SMS?
Sometimes I just don't understand you Americans.
They would never ever be allowed to charge you here for something you haven't specifically ordered or requested.

afv011 · 07-12-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

They can charge you for receiving SMS?
Sometimes I just don't understand you Americans.
They would never ever be allowed to charge you here for something you haven't specifically ordered or requested.

When I moved to Canada from Europe I was shocked I was expected to pay extra for incoming calls, caller ID, voicemail, multi-party and what not, all the things that you get included in Europe as a basic package. Thankfully the small carriers in Canada are offering all the goodies in all their packages, so we can stick the finger to the big 3.

wodin · 07-12-2012, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

They can charge you for receiving SMS?
Sometimes I just don't understand you Americans.
They would never ever be allowed to charge you here for something you haven't specifically ordered or requested.

Yes, SMS is an add on service with AT&T, $20 per month gets you unlimited text and free cell to cell with any cell carrier (AT&T to AT&T is free). I might use ten or so texts per month so my typical SMS bill is about $2. Lets see, figger figger $2 - $20... Why I believe $2 is better.

With my last carrier, Sprint, texts and cell to any carrier was included in the plan but AT&T's not willing to let go of that cash cow.

Kumabjorn · 07-12-2012, 04:29 PM

Ok, so you actually don't pay for a received message, you pay a set fee for the SMS service?
I think every service plan here, including pre-paid, includes at least 3,000 SMS/month, most have 5,000.

wodin · 07-12-2012, 06:48 PM

No, I pay $0.20 for every SMS, either sent or received. I could opt to pay $20/mo for unlimited SMS, but in my case that would not make economic sense as paying for individual texts is an order of magnitude less expensive.

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07-10-2012, 06:55 PM	#136
HansTWN Wizard Posts: 4,538 Karma: 264065402 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Taiwan Device: HP Touchpad, Sony Duo 13, Lumia 920, Kobo Aura HD	My guess is that the next version will have the same outer dimensions, they will just slightly reduce the bezel. And that would be a good thing. They should also get a better screen, that green tinge doesn't look nice.

07-10-2012, 07:31 PM	#137
wodin Illiterate Posts: 10,279 Karma: 37848716 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Sandwich Isles Device: Samsung Galaxy S10+, Microsoft Surface Pro	I heard that the width will actually be slightly narrower. I’m not quite sure how they will accomplish that as the side bezels are a bit too small already. When I’m holding it by the edges my fingers overlap a bit to the front and cause inadvertent touches.

07-11-2012, 12:25 AM	#139
Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	Would the screen enlargement enable them to put another icon in a row or a new row of icons? I find that doubtful, and that would also mean less of an appeal to those who already have a Note I would assume. I don't see a huge improvement in terms of view-ability for video, eBooks or e-mail with a slightly larger screen. Seems more like chasing numbers then.

07-11-2012, 02:16 AM	#141
tubemonkey monkey on the fringe Posts: 45,476 Karma: 158151390 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Metro Device: Moto E6, Echo Show	I'll pay $250 for a wifi only Note.

07-12-2012, 06:11 AM	#142
dura Groupie Posts: 174 Karma: 1062434 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Netherlands Device: Kobo H2O (2th edition), Kindle PW11	I hope they keep the 16:10 ratio instead of the more common 16:9. It gives an extra 10% screen wide, which is very welcome when reading.

07-12-2012, 01:24 PM	#143
wodin Illiterate Posts: 10,279 Karma: 37848716 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Sandwich Isles Device: Samsung Galaxy S10+, Microsoft Surface Pro	Well, I upgraded my Note to ICS last night. I don't see much difference in terms of usability, but it does seem a bit more "polished". The upgrade process was somewhat more arduous than I’ve seen before. They don’t have an OTA upgrade path, and it must be done on a PC or Mac (I saw a post where someone did in on a Linux box using Wine) using Kies (Samsung’s answer to iTunes). Samsung’s servers are a bit busy right now, and it took me more than an hour to download and install Kies, but once that was done it went smoothly. My Note preserved all my data and apps, and automatically upgraded any apps that have newer versions for ICS, but it didn’t preserve my home screen icons, so I had to go through the hassle of re-doing that. It also didn’t preserve my Bluetooth pairings, I didn’t realize that until I was on my way to work this morning and my hands free didn’t pair. Since I only upgraded last night, I don’t have a feel for battery life yet, the propaganda says it should improve; we’ll see.

07-12-2012, 01:28 PM	#144
Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	You did get an upgraded Note taker, called S-Note which is more versatile than S-Memo. It works with objects and integrates them better. You now also have the capability to turn push messages on and off. My update came OTA, with all the military installations you guys have I would assume you have an advanced cellular network.

07-12-2012, 02:46 PM	#146
Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	They can charge you for receiving SMS? Sometimes I just don't understand you Americans. They would never ever be allowed to charge you here for something you haven't specifically ordered or requested.

07-12-2012, 04:29 PM	#149
Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	Ok, so you actually don't pay for a received message, you pay a set fee for the SMS service? I think every service plan here, including pre-paid, includes at least 3,000 SMS/month, most have 5,000.

07-12-2012, 06:48 PM	#150
wodin Illiterate Posts: 10,279 Karma: 37848716 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Sandwich Isles Device: Samsung Galaxy S10+, Microsoft Surface Pro	No, I pay $0.20 for every SMS, either sent or received. I could opt to pay $20/mo for unlimited SMS, but in my case that would not make economic sense as paying for individual texts is an order of magnitude less expensive.