Using custom embeded font, and improve embedded image quality - Page 2

Turtle91 · 12-22-2022, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DNSB

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around what was being attempted with the em, em em em, em em em em em { trying to set italic while em em, em em em em {
were trying to set normal.

An attempt to toggle nested em tags between italic and normal?

Yes it was...and totally unnecessary to go that far. I only use one of those lines in the css...plus any special divs or somesuch:

Code:

em    {font-style:italic}
em em {font-style:normal}

div.telepath    {font-style:italic}
div.telepath em {font-style:normal; color:blue}

Code:

<div class="telepath">
<p>I expect this question to <em>again</em> open up the em vs i argument - 
even though it has nothing to do with the point!</p>
<p>Another sentence he said telepathically.</p>
</div>

Quote:

I expect this question to again open up the em vs i argument - even though it has nothing to do with the point!

Another sentence he said telepathically.

The intent is to emphasize words that are already surrounded by italicized words - and, as we all know, <em> does NOT have to be just italics...it just means emphasized...and you can emphasize words or phrases in many different ways....like a different color, font size, or font-type...

butterfly68za · 12-28-2022, 03:01 PM

I am also struggling to get Sigil to load my embedded font, I've gone through numerous forums but do not find my fault. I bet its something simple:

content.opf

Code:

<item id="stylesheet.css" href="Styles/stylesheet.css" media-type="text/css"/>
<item id="PCSB-Hebrew.otf" href="Fonts/PCSB-Hebrew.otf" media-type="font/otf"/>

stylesheet.css

Code:

@font-face {
  font-family: "PCSB Hebrew";
  font-style: normal;
  font-weight: normal;
  src: url(../Fonts/PCSB-Hebrew.otf);
}

span.hebrew {
  font-family: "PCSB Hebrew";
  font-style: normal;
  font-weight: normal;
}

file

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html>

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:epub="http://www.idpf.org/2007/ops">
<head>
  <title>The Book</title>
  <link href="stylesheet.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"/>
</head>

<body>
  <h1>The Book</h1>
  <p>The first word "<span class="hebrew">Hyfgt</span>" in the book...</p>
</body>
</html>

I just can not see the font when opening in a eReader.

KevinH · 12-28-2022, 03:42 PM

Your link href to your stylesheet is probably wrong unless your xhtml file is located inside the Styles folder. You can use Sigil to properly link the stylesheet. hrefs/urls are case sensitive.

To verify urls, either enable full paths for BookBrowser in Sigil Preferences (see https://github.com/Sigil-Ebook/sigil...nce-mainUI.png ) or just hover over a file in BookBrowser to see the exact file path from epub root.

BeckyEbook · 12-28-2022, 04:11 PM

In addition to the obvious problem described above by KevinH, I suggest checking additionally:
a) run the EpubCheck plugin and check your Epub file
b) I see that you have only given Moon Reader as the reader. Are you sure you have enabled the option to use additional fonts in the Moon Reader options?

Perhaps the problem has little to do with Sigil.

butterfly68za · 12-28-2022, 05:06 PM

I looked at your example and did the following to my book.

Created a new stylesheet, left the name and entries Sigil gave, copied the CSS from the old to the new file, and updated with this line in the file <head>

Code:

<link href="../Styles/Style0001.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"/>

That is the only difference I can find between the two books. I had stylesheet.css in the root so I could link directly. Guess Sigil didn't like that?

I was using the Sigil built-viewer and Calibre Book Viewer. I hadn't yet copied to Moon Reader on the phone, did that now, and the fonts are showing.

Thank you both Kevin and Becky

KevinH · 12-28-2022, 07:49 PM

No. Sigil will quite happily work with files in root or in arbitrary folders. It just requires that url links be relative and match the physical file paths.

If you had stylesheet.css in the root of the epub alongside your xhtml file then your link to your font files from the css is wrong because you can not legally proceed up one directory out of the root directory and back in, and also that would then be inconsistent with the manifest href for the stylesheet.css file from your content.opf.

All relative links must actually follow the physical folders and paths in the epub and match the layout as defined by the content.opf manifest.

Turning on full file paths in Sigil's BookBrowser will enable you to see actual epub root relative file paths so you can make proper relative links if you choose to do so manually but it is probably easier to use Sigil generate the correct links/hrefs/urls for you.

butterfly68za · 12-29-2022, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinH

If you had stylesheet.css in the root...

Going to leave it as it is, it's working... "Don't fix what is not broken"

I did discover that <body align=...> does not work in Moon Reader+, but <p align=... does work.

Again, thank you.

DiapDealer · 12-29-2022, 08:00 AM

You'll find much more that doesn't "work" in Moon Reader. Its developers have no real interest in accurately rendering things as the content creator intended. They are more focused on users being able to override any and all publisher settings. To the point where an actual "Publisher View" doesn't really exist any more. There's nothing wrong with it, if that's what people like. But because of it, Moon Reader's probably not the best choice for accurately previewing your book's css.

butterfly68za · 12-29-2022, 07:15 PM

Was not aware of this of Moon Reader+, I bought it a couple of years ago, was then highly recommended by many sites of the day. Maybe time to move on, do you have a preference for a reader on Android?

DiapDealer · 12-29-2022, 08:41 PM

I didn't mean to suggest there was anything wrong with it as a reading app. Lots of people swear by it. It's just not a very good indicator of how epubs will look on devices or other epub reading apps.

I don't read many epubs on Android anymore. When I do, I usually use the app associated with the bookstore where I bought it: Kobo or Google Play Books (or one of the library apps if I've borrowed it).

I used to swear by Mantano/Bookari until they broke and abandoned it.

Perhaps others will have better suggestions.

theducks · 12-29-2022, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by butterfly68za

Was not aware of this of Moon Reader+, I bought it a couple of years ago, was then highly recommended by many sites of the day. Maybe time to move on, do you have a preference for a reader on Android?

It is good for those who want it their way (AKA ignore most of the CSS)
It is not so good for those who want As Delivered (Use only the CSS)

I am not sure if any one make a viewer that the controls ONLY algebraic add to the CSS values (fudge them 1 hay or the other) and has a 'fast zero' button to reset any fudge settings.

DNSB · 12-29-2022, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by butterfly68za

Was not aware of this of Moon Reader+, I bought it a couple of years ago, was then highly recommended by many sites of the day. Maybe time to move on, do you have a preference for a reader on Android?

My current preference for reading on Android is Pocketbook's app. It respects CSS as well as most renderers and it also offers TTS.

I gave up on Moon+ when I found that an epub with no stylesheet rendered almost identically on Moon+ as the original epub with it's simple stylesheet.

butterfly68za · 12-31-2022, 06:19 PM

I am liking PocketBook

MicroDrie · 01-15-2023, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by butterfly68za

Going to leave it as it is, it's working... "Don't fix what is not broken"

I did discover that <body align=...> does not work in Moon Reader+, but <p align=... does work.

Again, thank you.

If you want to test which CSS commands your EPUB reader or application supports, you can use the enclosed EPUB. The CSS commands shown in red text are not supported.

12-28-2022, 03:42 PM	#18
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 7,644 Karma: 5433388 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	Your link href to your stylesheet is probably wrong unless your xhtml file is located inside the Styles folder. You can use Sigil to properly link the stylesheet. hrefs/urls are case sensitive. To verify urls, either enable full paths for BookBrowser in Sigil Preferences (see https://github.com/Sigil-Ebook/sigil...nce-mainUI.png ) or just hover over a file in BookBrowser to see the exact file path from epub root. Last edited by KevinH; 12-28-2022 at 04:15 PM.

12-28-2022, 05:06 PM	#20
butterfly68za Member Posts: 16 Karma: 9714 Join Date: Dec 2022 Location: Pretoria, South Africa Device: Android Mobile (Moon Reader+, PocketBook), Kindle 3	I looked at your example and did the following to my book. Created a new stylesheet, left the name and entries Sigil gave, copied the CSS from the old to the new file, and updated with this line in the file <head> Code: <link href="../Styles/Style0001.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"/> That is the only difference I can find between the two books. I had stylesheet.css in the root so I could link directly. Guess Sigil didn't like that? I was using the Sigil built-viewer and Calibre Book Viewer. I hadn't yet copied to Moon Reader on the phone, did that now, and the fonts are showing. Thank you both Kevin and Becky Last edited by butterfly68za; 12-28-2022 at 05:10 PM.

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12-28-2022, 07:49 PM	#21
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 7,644 Karma: 5433388 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	No. Sigil will quite happily work with files in root or in arbitrary folders. It just requires that url links be relative and match the physical file paths. If you had stylesheet.css in the root of the epub alongside your xhtml file then your link to your font files from the css is wrong because you can not legally proceed up one directory out of the root directory and back in, and also that would then be inconsistent with the manifest href for the stylesheet.css file from your content.opf. All relative links must actually follow the physical folders and paths in the epub and match the layout as defined by the content.opf manifest. Turning on full file paths in Sigil's BookBrowser will enable you to see actual epub root relative file paths so you can make proper relative links if you choose to do so manually but it is probably easier to use Sigil generate the correct links/hrefs/urls for you.

12-29-2022, 08:00 AM	#23
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,549 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	You'll find much more that doesn't "work" in Moon Reader. Its developers have no real interest in accurately rendering things as the content creator intended. They are more focused on users being able to override any and all publisher settings. To the point where an actual "Publisher View" doesn't really exist any more. There's nothing wrong with it, if that's what people like. But because of it, Moon Reader's probably not the best choice for accurately previewing your book's css.

12-29-2022, 07:15 PM	#24
butterfly68za Member Posts: 16 Karma: 9714 Join Date: Dec 2022 Location: Pretoria, South Africa Device: Android Mobile (Moon Reader+, PocketBook), Kindle 3	Was not aware of this of Moon Reader+, I bought it a couple of years ago, was then highly recommended by many sites of the day. Maybe time to move on, do you have a preference for a reader on Android?

12-29-2022, 08:41 PM	#25
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,549 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I didn't mean to suggest there was anything wrong with it as a reading app. Lots of people swear by it. It's just not a very good indicator of how epubs will look on devices or other epub reading apps. I don't read many epubs on Android anymore. When I do, I usually use the app associated with the bookstore where I bought it: Kobo or Google Play Books (or one of the library apps if I've borrowed it). I used to swear by Mantano/Bookari until they broke and abandoned it. Perhaps others will have better suggestions.

12-31-2022, 06:19 PM	#28
butterfly68za Member Posts: 16 Karma: 9714 Join Date: Dec 2022 Location: Pretoria, South Africa Device: Android Mobile (Moon Reader+, PocketBook), Kindle 3	I am liking PocketBook