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11-19-2012, 05:45 PM | #62 | |
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Putting it up in a public place for others to read? No, that would not seem fair and I wouldn't do it. |
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11-21-2012, 12:00 AM | #63 |
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Since my DRM removal software continues to work in spite of these laws I will continue to strip DRM as necessary.
The format shifting provision does mean that it is legal to scan books and create ebooks. No DRM removal is involved (although the poor print quality of some paperbacks might be construed as DRM by some.) This legislation is just asking for a court challenge. We have all these rights and the the DRM provision then invalidates them. A clever lawyer might have some fun there. The Canadian government has been under attack by American and international media cartels for quite a while now. It is significant that the legislation did not change the current copyright term of life life plus 50 years. Steamboat Willie remains public domain in Canada! |
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11-25-2012, 11:33 AM | #65 |
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I would like to share a quote from Heinlein that might be applicable here:
"I will accept the rules that you feel necessary to your freedom. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." O.K., one more concerning morals: "Correct morality can only be derived from what man is — not from what do-gooders and well-meaning aunt Nellies would like him to be." I live by many things I have read in Heinlein's books mostly because they reflect how I feel and what I believe. Many involve either ignoring or fighting against repressive rules, laws, and ideas that only serve the ones that created them. I wish that the authors and creators of all forms of art controlled the manner in which they are published to the general public and thus eliminated the middlemen who really have nothing to do with the creative process and have only insinuated themselves there to create and increase profits for themselves. I know what you are thinking, I should wish into one hand, defecate into the other and see which one fills up first, but hey, I can dream. Ken |
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I don't think that publishers have insinuated themselves though. For many years they provided services that writers could not afford to provide for themselves. Primarily IMO the actual production of the physical books in enough quantity to make a profit. What author could buy their own presses, bind their own books, without spending a lot more money on equipment alone than they could hope to realize on even 20 books. Then there is the cost of employees to operate the presses etc. Publishers evolved from printers and bookbinders by providing other services like editing, distribution, publicity etc. and eventually became a controlling force. But I don't see that as insinuating themselves, just a common business practice such as that provided by stores, dairys, and most merchants/manufacturers. A frozen food manufacturer buys meat/vegetables from a farmer or consortium of farmers, processes it, squishes it out in small uniform portions onto plastic trays, encloses it in a fancy cardboard box and sells it a hell of a lot more than the farmer gets. How is this measurably different? I know ebooks cost less to produce, but if we had epotatoes and echicken, would you expect someone to cook it up, make it look nice and distribute it at cost or less? Helen |
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No. We do, however, expect them to NOT charge the same as physical books and pocket the savings (physical manufacture, transportation, and storage) as extra profit (which is what most currently do).
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11-27-2012, 05:47 AM | #70 | |
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The publishers don't subside the cost of reading devices. Amazon/B&N etc do, but that comes out of their 30% cut. And no-one subsidised the cost of the iPad I use for some of my reading. |
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Yes, Amazon and B&N do. Why don't they count? And you made the decision not to read on a subsidized device, can't blame anyone for that, can you? That is just like signing up for a phone company's plan, paying the same monthly charges as everyone else, and then not getting a cheap or free phone. It is you who chooses not to take advantage of what they offer.
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Did you hear that Daniel Woodrell??? I may be late in doing so but I've bought everything you wrote now get busy and write some more Rene Shade stories! I'm jonesin' for more bayou! |
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In the end, it's their own fault that I am practically forced to remove DRM to even enjoy the book. |
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11-29-2012, 11:01 AM | #74 |
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When publishers hardcode a font into an ebook that is faint and make the margins ridiculously huge so that you must remove DRM to have control over the formatting in order to read the book without duress, it surely must fall under "DRM removal for personal use". If the cops show up at my door to charge me for doing so, I'll point them to the suspected grow-op down the street and hope that arresting them might be a slightly more worthwhile use of public funds.
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