03-15-2019, 10:14 AM | #16 |
mostly an observer
Posts: 1,515
Karma: 987654
Join Date: Dec 2012
Device: Kindle
|
Please don't do this! I get a bellyful of videos in my email. I don't want to see them in my books!
|
03-15-2019, 12:43 PM | #17 | |
Bibliophagist
Posts: 35,356
Karma: 145435140
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vancouver
Device: Kobo Sage, Forma, Clara HD, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos
|
Quote:
I suspect that to many, I'm splitting hairs as to exactly what embedding means as when patrickyoung referred to "Is there any way to embed them into a page?". To me, adding a link to an image, audio or video file is not embedding but adding a base64 encoded animated gif is embedding as it becomes part of the html code. OTOH, others will disagree with me. See the HTLM5 <embed> which adds a link to external content. |
|
03-15-2019, 12:54 PM | #18 | |
Bibliophagist
Posts: 35,356
Karma: 145435140
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vancouver
Device: Kobo Sage, Forma, Clara HD, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos
|
Quote:
|
|
03-15-2019, 01:06 PM | #19 | |
Wizard
Posts: 1,542
Karma: 6613969
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Rosario - Santa Fe - Argentina
Device: Kindle 4 NT
|
Quote:
|
|
03-15-2019, 02:11 PM | #20 | ||
Bookmaker & Cat Slave
Posts: 11,461
Karma: 158448243
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Device: K2, iPad, KFire, PPW, Voyage, NookColor. 2 Droid, Oasis, Boox Note2
|
Quote:
Quote:
Splitting hairs is conflating the terms. Calling links to video hosted elsewhere is not embedding. Embedding the entire file in an ePUB is embedding. That seems to be what you're saying now, but it's absolutely not clear that that's what you were saying earlier. The way you phrased it, in the segment I quoted, made it sound as though he could ONLY link to videos hosted elsewhere, so I simply clarified. I agree that it's not normal. It's a massive waste of the reader's space (both the person and the device) and it makes no damn sense to do it that way. He started out talking about typical, linked videos, but now we have this whole other discussion, (due to some discussion about how Youtube is going to do horrible things to their videos, which is whatever) of embedding the damned things. When obviously, the SIMPLEST solution is to put the videos and a player on their own website, if they really think that YT is going to mess with their videos. (Which, of course, is entirely against YT's own best interests, mind you. Unless, of course, we're discussing paedophilia or other weirdness here.) Hitch |
||
03-15-2019, 02:32 PM | #21 |
Resident Curmudgeon
Posts: 73,942
Karma: 128903250
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts
Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3
|
And even if the video plays on an eInk Reader, most won't have sound so if the video has sound, that won't be heard.
|
03-16-2019, 03:34 AM | #22 | |
Bibliophagist
Posts: 35,356
Karma: 145435140
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vancouver
Device: Kobo Sage, Forma, Clara HD, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos
|
Quote:
Whether I am linking to an file hosted on YouTube or linking to a file inside the epub package doesn't really matter to me. Links is links. I get the galloping heebies when you refer to "embedding the file, itself, in the HTML files" where I would say "embedding the file in the EPUB document or EPUB package file". By definition, an epub document/container/package file must contain more than only HTML files. Pedantry is us. Last edited by DNSB; 03-16-2019 at 03:47 AM. |
|
03-16-2019, 12:21 PM | #23 | |
Grand Sorcerer
Posts: 11,470
Karma: 13095790
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Grass Valley, CA
Device: EB 1150, EZ Reader, Literati, iPad 2 & Air 2, iPhone 7
|
Quote:
Dale |
|
03-16-2019, 01:09 PM | #24 | |
Bookmaker & Cat Slave
Posts: 11,461
Karma: 158448243
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Device: K2, iPad, KFire, PPW, Voyage, NookColor. 2 Droid, Oasis, Boox Note2
|
Quote:
The OP is obviously not making that distinction. He is simply talking about embedding the videos IN THE PACKAGE, versus hosted videos "elsewhere." Nobody here--NOBODY--was talking about putting an mp4 file in the actual HTML code. I mean, sure, I can be as pedantic as the next guy, but you're making a distinction about something that couldn't even EXIST, as an MP4 file or other video could NOT be "embedded" in the HTML itself. Those are "heebie jeebies" about an event that literally could never occur. Have them if you will, but that's like an argument about HOW you'd fall off the edge of the earth if it were flat. Hitch |
|
03-16-2019, 08:35 PM | #25 | |
Bibliophagist
Posts: 35,356
Karma: 145435140
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vancouver
Device: Kobo Sage, Forma, Clara HD, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos
|
Quote:
Yes, I understand that for most people, making a file available locally is referred to as embedding. For me, there is a difference between embedding a video in a package of files and making a video available to a web page as a link to a locally stored file. Perhaps as useful as ordering the tide not to come in given that any Google search will find "embedding videos" used for everything up to and including linking to a video on YouTube and other video sites. The heebies are more from the misuse of words. Though worrying about the purity of the English language is more than a bit silly given the history of the English language. As James D. Nicoll phrased it: "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." "You gotta just laugh at yourself and let it go and not take things too seriously because life is too short." |
|
03-18-2019, 09:38 AM | #26 | |
Bookmaker & Cat Slave
Posts: 11,461
Karma: 158448243
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Device: K2, iPad, KFire, PPW, Voyage, NookColor. 2 Droid, Oasis, Boox Note2
|
Quote:
Hitch |
|
03-18-2019, 11:56 PM | #27 |
Bibliophagist
Posts: 35,356
Karma: 145435140
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vancouver
Device: Kobo Sage, Forma, Clara HD, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
embed video | BetterRed | Sigil | 1 | 11-30-2014 09:58 PM |
embed video in Kindle/mobi? | pete5609 | Kindle Formats | 10 | 06-09-2014 03:45 PM |
trouble uploading epub with video embed on kindle | cykwon | Amazon Kindle | 4 | 10-06-2011 01:26 AM |
Embed other video file types | daffy4u | Feedback | 8 | 02-09-2010 09:46 AM |