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Old 06-14-2019, 11:50 PM   #61
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I'd probably spend more for the wally world tablet because the fire tablet's too ios-style walled-garden for me.

Then again, I love my fire TV, even though I have to go to lengths I shouldn't have to to use kodi.

Although at least Amazon hasn't done what Sony "accidentally" (yeah, right) did to block kodi.
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Old 06-15-2019, 08:58 AM   #62
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I'd probably spend more for the wally world tablet because the fire tablet's too ios-style walled-garden for me.

Then again, I love my fire TV, even though I have to go to lengths I shouldn't have to to use kodi.

Although at least Amazon hasn't done what Sony "accidentally" (yeah, right) did to block kodi.
Amazon's position on Kodi (and side loading in general) is they won't stop you but they won't help you either. As to Kodi itself, their "middle ground" position is to offer up MrMC, which is Kodi minus (most) plugins. Thing is it is a solid media center app even on the FireTV stick, stable, and well supported. Cheap, but paid, so they make a buck or so, which is what they're in Business for.

I have Kodi on XBOX and MrMC on FireOS and there is no difference except in the skins. Well, and the USB ports on the XBOX, but I use a server to hold my CDs and DVDs anyway.

A difference that makes little difference to me.
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Old 06-16-2019, 01:31 PM   #63
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Someone above said that the Fire HD8 went on sale for $59 a few times a year. It was also on sale for $50 last year.
I forgot to add that I got an extra 5% ($2.50) off for using Amazon Prime Card. The and my Church got something too!

The savings just keep mounting. [[All that said, I don't like Bezos personally, but heck the Lemonade stand down the block is charging 25 cents a cup and Jeff only 10 cents and the taste is as good and is as cold.

Ok, leebase, I started a check last night at 3:47AM on the Fire HD8 when it was at 96% battery charge and just now at 1:15 PM (about 9 hours) the charge was 93%. I hope I duplicated somewhat your own test by cutting the Fire on, looking at it briefly and then laying it face up and walking away.

I am pleased at the results. Give me more parameters if you want to change the test.

As for typing on it, my own (subjective) typing seems ok.

And by the way Children's Fires are on sale today.
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Old 06-17-2019, 01:22 AM   #65
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Ok, leebase, I started a check last night at 3:47AM on the Fire HD8 when it was at 96% battery charge and just now at 1:15 PM (about 9 hours) the charge was 93%. I hope I duplicated somewhat your own test by cutting the Fire on, looking at it briefly and then laying it face up and walking away.
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at 1:15PM (near 21 1/2 hours) = 89% charge

Monday 11:49PM (32 hours) =84% charge

to reemphasize my procedure. I pick up the tablet which is laying on it's back while "ON" and press the button and the screen flicks alive and shows a nice pretty ad with John Snow for the GOT Slots Casino Game (whatever that is) and the time and battery charge.

I then lay the tablet down without pressing anything else.

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Old 06-17-2019, 09:05 AM   #66
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Interesting. Perhaps a software update has improved things and I hadn’t noticed. I had attributed the Walmart tablets performance to Android 9 being better than Android 7.1 (which only the newest Fire tablets get, my year older Fire tablet can’t get that version)
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Androids 'charge' status is a self calibrating thing. As you use the device over time, it adjusts the state of charge curve. New devices are basicall a ballpark calibration, the will settle after a bunch of use-charge cycles
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Topped up both, turned them on. 4 hours ago. Walmart has 92% battery. Amazon Fire Tab 8 has 88%. Will continue to track
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Topped up both, turned them on. 4 hours ago. Walmart has 92% battery. Amazon Fire Tab 8 has 88%. Will continue to track
Just curious if you have the same Apps installed job each device, and they're configured the same way?

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Topped up both, turned them on. 4 hours ago. Walmart has 92% battery. Amazon Fire Tab 8 has 88%. Will continue to track
Honestly, +/- 2% doesn't show any real difference to me. Maybe once you consistantly reach 10% (+/- 5% with one tablet always being lower) it would indicate a trend, before it is just statistical noise, IMHO.
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at 1:15PM (near 21 1/2 hours) = 89% charge

Monday 11:49PM (32 hours) =84% charge

to reemphasize my procedure. I pick up the tablet which is laying on it's back while "ON" and press the button and the screen flicks alive and shows a nice pretty ad with John Snow for the GOT Slots Casino Game (whatever that is) and the time and battery charge.

I then lay the tablet down without pressing anything else.
--- I don't mind the ads. Some are useful.

Also as mentioned already, I do have Android 7.1 cause I bought the Fire HD 8 late in 2018.

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The heating issue points to the battery. Hopefully it won't happen but overheating gizmos tend to go on fire, sooner or later, somewhere..
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Ok, apparently there has been some software improvement since I formed my opinion that the FireTabs run out of battery fairly quickly when not in use. I KNOW I have, time and again, picked up my Fire tablets and “dammit, it’s on zero battery”.

But I got up this morning, and both the Fire tablet and Walmart tablet were at 72% after a whole day of just being on and not in use. The same...they were the same. Even this isn’t a definitive test but it’s the end of my caring about it

Meanwhile, I used my iPad mini for 4.5 hours screen time (reading, web surfing, YouTube, social media). Went to bed at 80% battery and woke up with 77%. It’s a smaller, thinner tablet with a far more gorgeous screen - and it’s WAY faster, And near 10 times the price
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Meanwhile, I used my iPad mini for 4.5 hours screen time (reading, web surfing, YouTube, social media). Went to bed at 80% battery and woke up with 77%. It’s a smaller, thinner tablet with a far more gorgeous screen - and it’s WAY faster, And near 10 times the price
I suppose 6.2 times is close to 10 times, iPad Mini 64GB, WiFi is $529 Cdn while the Walmart tablet comes in at $85.65 Cdn. However 64GB vs. 16GB, 2048x1536 vs. 1280x800, etc. etc. The funny part from my point of view is that we picked up 3 of the new iPad Minis for testing and the bottom of the line unit costs $100 Cdn more than the iPad bottom unit though you get 32GB more storage with the Mini (for $20 Cdn more than the Mini, the iPad goes to 128GB).

Having taken a look at the Onn tablet in a Walmart south of the border, I'd go for the iPad Mini if I didn't already have an iPad Pro.
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