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2. Textbooks are a rather special case, I'd think. The market dynamics seems to be different. While I might not be surprised to find there was a valid need for DRM on textbook rentals, I would not automatically assume that says anything about mainstream library lending. 3. Speaking of Amazon, do they handle BPH-type business the same way they do KDP, in that you can choose DRM or no DRM with no difference in price terms? If so, doesn't it seem odd to you that, if DRM had value to AMAZON directly, they would not have different terms that compensate them for that lost value if one opted for NO DRM? The fact that they do NOT do that (for KDP at least) is more evidence that AMAZON sees no value in DRM, beyond "If you insist, Mr, Publisher, the customer is always right...." Last edited by ApK; 10-08-2014 at 12:14 PM. Reason: Added item #3 |
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One big difference with Amazon is that I don't have to install their software (or any software) on my PC at all, therefore they don't have any opportunity to scan my PC. With Adobe, if you choose to buy books using their DRM to read on an e-reader, you really have no choice but to install their software on your computer. (From reading here, I see that you used to be able to use software from Sony to unlock your books, but...really. Sony? If they are trusted more than Adobe, then Adobe must be pretty bad...)
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If it's a problem for one kind of file, it's a problem for the other. And it doesn't seem to be a problem with the audiobooks. The music industry proved, conclusively, that DRM a) doesn't improve sales, and b) costs a lot of money. The publishing industry is getting there, slowly, but may, in the end, prove too stupid to understand. |
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Remember that you the reader are not Adobe's customer for ADE, nor is ADE the product that Adobe is selling. What Adobe is selling is the DRM to the publishers and ebook stores.
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Which is to say, when you're not paying for the service, you're not the customer, you're the product.
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Having a time sensitive DRM mechanism reading WITHIN their own architecture is fine, and I agree, it's a good use of the technology. When they begin to reach PAST their software and into other places on my hard drive they have no business being, THEN I have a problem. |
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