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09-30-2020, 06:39 PM | #32 | |
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I mean: (1) I link from location x to note A. I click back (or cancel or whatever) in the popup and go back to location x. (2) I link from location y to note A. I click back (or cancel or whatever) in the popup and go back to location y. Thanks. |
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09-30-2020, 07:04 PM | #33 | |
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See the second icon in the attached image of the Kindle standard toolbar. It works like the back button on a web browser. |
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Can you provide an example in the basic implementing HTML of what you're talking about? I just don't get the relevance of the toolbar display when (I thought) we're talking generic footnotes in standard etext. I'd like a description of HOW this works (whatever it is) rather than a picture of a UI in which maybe it's been implemented. Thanks. |
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Still not sure how the tool bar is relevant to this. |
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09-30-2020, 08:45 PM | #38 | |
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As for examples, exercise your Google-fu. The topic has been discussed to death on MobileRead on several occasions. See Multiple references to the same footnote from a decade back or a slightly more recent Cross References: How to Handle the Backlinks of Multiple Links to One Anchor? . |
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That makes no sense to me either. Perhaps you should reread what I actually wrote.
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09-30-2020, 09:26 PM | #40 |
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That you can tap on things presented as a print facsimile and expect anything in particular to happen. Here online if I encountered an entirely unadorned asterisk* I would not expect anything to happen if I clicked it, despite being generally aware that the web is pretty interactive. For many folks a given ebook is their first, and they’ll surprise you with how little it’s safe to assume.
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What you're suggesting in my comment seems to be what was my first idea: have an explicit backlink for each citation to the note. That does have certain advantages (but minimal, I think). Then I realized I didn't need explicit backlinks to make the popups work in Kindle (or Epub more generally). The person doesn't SEE distinct backlinks. They just work because ... er .. that's how they work, as you'll see. And since it's absolutely vanilla HTML, they work in Kindle with popup notes as well. Here are some example templates for the code: Here's code for footnote 1 in Chapter 1 (in a file Chapter_1.xhtml). It's referencing a note/citation in a file References.xhtml in the relative ../Text directory: Here's a citation in Chapter_1.xhtml: In Chapter_1: <sup><a id="Ch_1" href="../Text/References.xhtml#Div_1_target" epub:type="noteref"></a>1</sup> Here's a citation (footnote 2 in Chapter_2.xhtml) to the SAME note/reference from a different location (Chapter_2.xhtml): In Chapter_2: Note the only difference is in the <a> element id and the reference to the (second) <div> in the References file.<sup><a id="Ch_2" href="../Text/References.xhtml#Div_2_target" epub:type="noteref"></a>2</sup> Then wherever the footnote/reference text is (In this case in a file References.xhtml in the relative path ../Text), the code will look like this: In ../Text/References.xhtml: <p id="MyExampleNote"> The key here is that a <div> is just a block marker which provides you with a distinct ID that you can use as a target of a link. And you can nest <div> elements to your heart's content. Each one has it's own backlink to the specific <a>-reference that went to that <div>. And only the footnote text gets displayed (subject, on the Kindle, to their stripping out of various structure, links, and whatever).<div id="Div_1_target"> <div id="Div_2_target"> Footnote text goes here, and here's the backlink to the CH_1 citation: <a class="link" href="../Text/Chapter_1.xhtml#Ch_1"></a> </div> /* and here's the backlink to the Ch_2 citation: */ <a class="link" href="../Text/Chapter_1.xhtml#Ch_2"></a> </div> </p> Note that the <p>...</p> is one thing that will work as a note structure, but of course others MAY work as well. However, list elements don't seem to result in the desired behaviors. The best approach is to stick with the <p> elements as illustrated or just go with vanilla <div> elements and any formatting code you may want to throw in between them. Last edited by ghmerrill; 10-01-2020 at 12:34 PM. |
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KOReader can display footnotes as footnotes (at the bottom of the current screen)
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Let's say you have 3 references to the same footnote. How are you going to make it easy to go back? You would have to have three back buttons. And you would have to have them labeled so it's obvious where they go back. But, what if the reader doesn't know which one is the correct one to press? These are things you are not taking into account and that's why your way is all wrong and you need this footnote three times. Last edited by JSWolf; 10-01-2020 at 06:58 AM. |
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Yeah. Good advice. I've never liked the OS on them anyway. I feel you, bro.
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But thanks. The best idea here has been to forget the Kindle. I'll definitely be going in that direction, and so my work in this thread is now done. |
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