10-25-2016, 07:37 PM | #31 | |
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"Supported Characters: Amazon Kindle Direct Publishing supports text in the 'Latin-1' (ISO-8859-1) format and all characters in that character set. The only characters from that set not currently supported are: spades, clubs, hearts, up-arrow, down-arrow, alpha, beta, gamma. "That character set includes the most characters found in western European languages and many associated glyphs such as the 'copyright' mark, superscript (power of two) and German umlauts. You can see a list of all supported characters here [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IE...-1#Code_table]. An image showing all those characters can also be seen here [https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....p/Latin1.gif.]" I know the KDP website is aimed at the lowest common denominator, but you would think at least the Guidelines would be more robust. Page 23 on text is really lame. |
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10-25-2016, 08:17 PM | #32 | |
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I bet this is just a case of REALLY dumbing information down to try to minimize the amount of Customer Support Amazon has to do. |
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The online stuff IS oriented toward the DIY Word person. Stick with the new(er) Formatting Guidelines. I haven't yet run into the unicode issue. Is it giving you agita on a specific item? Hitch |
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Which brings me back to the PDF. If the Publishing Guidelines are the official coding guidelines, why not make mention of Unicode? This may be a question no one except Jeff Bezos -- who has demonstrated repeatedly that he follows a logic not often shared by others -- can answer. But about the question regarding exporting Word to HTML for importing into Sigil: I vaguely recall a conversation I had with John Schember about Sigil mapping Windows-1252 characters to UTF-8 upon import, but I notice that if one exports to HTML using Windows defaults, and then imports into Sigil, the charset is still listed as Windows-1252 even though the header code in Sigil says the file itself is UTF-8. So now I am wondering if there is any situation where that would cause problems on Kindle or ePub. Should one change the defaults in Word to export to HTML as UTF-8 when following the workflow of Word to HTML to Sigil to ePub? Or should one just change the header code in Sigil to say the charset is UTF-8 since Sigil has already automatically mapped the character set? Or, to put it another way, does it make any difference, or cause any problems, if the charset (Windows-1252) differs from the file encoding (UTF-8)? |
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I must admit, I never looked too closely at actually using Thin Spaces heavily in ebooks (I only worked on one French Canadian book a few years back, where I first came across all that Thin Space intel). Side Note: IF you want to read about the French punctuation spacing, here is some info: http://unicode.org/udhr/n/notes_fra.html https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Non....28U.2B202F.29 https://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/html/french.html and here was some Canadian French spacing rules (slightly different from normal French): http://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tcd...ect17&info0=17 Quote:
But try to explain something technical (like encoding) to your grandma. There is just no way! Once you get a few paragraphs of technical words, their eyes glaze over. Easier to just say: "Save it as ASCII/ANSI, if it doesn't work... not supported." Anything outside of (English letters + a few accented characters + most common symbols) turns to mush: "Well, if you keep having trouble, you can pay Createspace to create the file for you. *wink wink*" Side Note: It reminds me of this topic on the LaTeX Stack Exchange, "How can I explain the meaning of LaTeX to my grandma?": https://tex.stackexchange.com/questi...-to-my-grandma Quote:
There is just absolutely no reason I can see why any sort of new documents should be non-Unicode in this day and age. Last edited by Tex2002ans; 10-25-2016 at 11:49 PM. |
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@eggheadbooks1: You can ignore all confusing Amazon statements about Unicode support for the following reasons:
1. As far as Kindle books are concerned, only KindleGen Unicode support matters, and KindleGen and its precursor MobiGen have supported Unicode for a long time. 2. The epub2 specs require all books to be encoded as either utf-8 or utf-16. (utf-16 was presumably only added because it can theoretically reduce the size of CJK HTML files by 20-30%.) 3. KindleGen explicitly supports valid epub2 and epub3 books as input files. (KindleGen doesn't support all epub3/CSS3 features, though.) Code:
Usage : kindlegen [filename.opf/.htm/.html/.epub/.zip or directory] [-c0 or -c1 or c2] [-verbose] [-western] [-o <file name>]
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The default encoding in all versions of Word shipped in North America is Western European (Windows), aka Windows-1252. You have to deliberately change it to UTF-8 when saving if you want UTF-8. The default encoding in Notepad is ANSI. |
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Which is why I come here for help, and not KDP's alleged technical help department, which is manned by people for whom English is a foreign language and who often don't understand complex questions. I gave up on them a long time ago. When Amazon/Adobe first developed the InDesign Kindle plugin, there was a feedback button that sent one's email directly to the Kindle programming team; THEN you got proper answers. But now that feedback button links (or is forwarded) to the KDP help department, which as stated is of no help at all. |
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FWIW--and I say this with NO hubris or misplaced pride or anything along those lines--I have found that often, we (my shop) have a better grip on what works, and what doesn't, and where bugs exist, etc., than most of the guys/gals in Seattle. It's not about their programming-fu; it's that they don't run into the issues that we do, because what they work on isn't necessarily based in doing real books. And we (I) do deal with the heads of departments, the hardcore code guys, and the like. For example, we were the ones that told them that the Voyage had a display bug, around images larger than 50% of the screen width and smaller than 100%. Can you imagine? All those resources devoted to creating a new reader, and WE are the ones who find the first large bug? It happens. Lord knows, I've nearly pulled my hair out on some discussions. I had a lengthy, ongoing discussion with someone there, about the SRL (Start Reading Location). He persistently INSISTED that if we used the HTML "start" anchor, (uh...), that the SRL would work. (We were primarily using the "text" meta...). No matter how many times we demo'ed that that didn't work, he sort of refused to "see" it. Trust me, I have a litany of those types of discussions. Like everything in coding, you don't find the glitches and bugs, really, until some power-user uses it, and breaks it. So, I don't hold that against them. The people that you speak to, eggheadbooks1, don't really work in the Tech end. They know the basics, and can usually shepherd a DIYer, but they're not at the upper ends, vis-a-vis something as "sophisticated" as uploading an ePUB instead of a MOBI. Those folks are designed to work with the Word DIYers. Hitch |
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And don't comment on how YOU'RE sure I feel when you don't know me from Eve. Last edited by eggheadbooks1; 10-27-2016 at 01:07 PM. |
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Hitch,
I know of someone that needs a complex ebook done: he has portions of text that are on curves and such that he wants replicated. The only way I can see to do it is either as a regular image file (GIF or JPEG, maybe PNG) or, likely better, in an SVG. I'll send him to your website. |
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