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I sort of hope you are wrong. Because if you aren't the people in this thread really need to learn how to describe their problems. Nothing in what has been said made me think of what is shown in those pictures.
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My understanding is that all the lights are across the bottom. And that there are 7 white and 5 or 6 coloured LEDs. And that has me a little baffled about those cones on the side. I don't know where they would be coming from.
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And here are some new photos. Note that the bleed looks a lot worse on the photos than they are in real life as I didn't use manual ISO and shutterspead etc. Also my darkened room isn't as perfect as haydnfan's origami box. But at least some of the pictures show what it looks like under real reading conditions. I made pictures with curtains closed (darker around the device) and with curtains only slightly open. The first picture (full brightness and curtains closed) is to illustrate where the bleed is, you'd never read in darkness with full brightness I don't think...
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06-29-2018, 02:54 AM | #66 |
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David - if you look at pictures 8 & 9 of my post #362 you can see the problem. At least that's the issue I noticed - but I haven't been one of the ones discussing it, not did I use the phrase "light bleed" but I think it's what people are referring to.
In those pictures the Clara is on the left (OK technically top in 8) and you can see some light coming in at the sides near the bottom. In 9 for example there's a blob of light that spans the bottom menu/status bar near the word "< Home". There's also one higher up (just under and opposite "title:" in the text) - it's harder to see. Also smaller ones on the right. They actually show up more in real life than in those photos. I do think they look like 'cones' but they are coming from the sides not the bottom. Are they a problem? Well for me, yes and no. They are worse the higher the light level and higher the natural light setting. They are noticeable in a way that's possible to ignore if you focus on the text, but they are clearly there if you look for them. Unlike the lady in the tape video I don't think I'd send my Clara back over them, but I'd certainly rather they weren't there. But that's just me though. In all these issues people's eyes, expectations and tolerances differ. If someone tells me these light issues are serious enough that they are constantly nagging at them then I believe it. For them. By the way, the reason I think this is definitely the issue others are talking about is that I applied the tape fix and it all but solved the problem. I think the only reason it didn't 100% is because I wasn't precise enough in applying the tape. There's still a very small cone - but I have to really look for it. Also I didn't manage to get it 100% straight and the tape peeks out from under the bezel by a few millimetres - but it doesn't ever cover up anything displayed on the device (although I'm using default margins and there's always some gap. I suppose I'd have to patch it to know for sure.) I may try again with the tape. The nice thing about that fix is that it's re-doable and it's non-destructive (always allowing that you're handling the device carefully that is). Hope this helps. Update: in the time it took to write that Mrs_Often has posted some pictures. |
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Here's one of the pictures again but now annotated. I just noticed something cone-like that might be what davidfor was referring to along the bottom (red annotation). This NOT what we were talking about (or I wasn't anyway) because it is not visible in real life with regular (sensitive) eyes. What we (I) call the bleed are the brighter spots in green annotation. And, again, they're not as bad to the eye as to the camera lens.
EDIT: Had some upload issues but picture should be there now. Last edited by Mrs_Often; 06-29-2018 at 03:04 AM. |
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06-29-2018, 03:47 AM | #70 |
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I took apart my Clara HD, and i think the tape fix is not really the right fix.
The issue is that the front bezel presses on the screen in such a way that the light becomes uneven, as, without the front on, i don't have the uneven light issue. |
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re-attaching it fixed the issue for me.
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@Mrs_Often, @latepaul: Thank you, that is clear. And I remember looking at those images, but didn't think anything of those cones. I think I was expecting it to be a more even glare coming from the sides and going all the way up. I think that's what "bleed" was suggesting.
And looking at that last photo, I'm intrigued as to what is causing them and the pattern. Is it as simple as the bits where there is no light the bezel is a little closer to the screen? Or is it something in the light guide? |
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We know there are no LED on the sides so the light is bouncing out from the side surface of the glass and bouncing back. Perhaps the glass and the LCD under it not sealed properly at those spots. Clearly a physical issue. |
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