07-17-2017, 04:00 PM | #31 | |
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I really try to take heed of that recent comment here about time being scarce. Think that was even you MDP. But I will always have an easy excuse: English is not my first language. My only experience with Boox devices (s. sig) left the impression on me that some of them are, or at least were, indeed "half-baked" products as another forum participant commented recently. With a grain of salt, nothing worked in the device but the most fundamental tasks: audio to begin with, dicts useless, search function "bumpy" and unreliable, but also most of the "cropping" features, a concept I also did not have the ability to understand, at least not from my own experience. Then again, I did not know about updating so may be that would have enabled some of the functions. So I felt it worked in a way I would describe as "buggy" and I had to adapt to the device, work around one or two pecularities, and do without some things. I try to speak about the firmware, putting hardware problems one side of which there were as well. Then I noticed that the apps for the different formats ( pdf, epub, mobi, djvu and so on) all had different functionality with pdf being the one where you could do the most. It all seemed complicated and the icons were so tiny, it was like you had to learn how to hit each in a special way and place to get what you want at the first go. The upside was that I exercised the joints of my index finger and improved its flexibility. All of this is intended to speak to my comment on usability. So this is obviously the bias of someone who didn't know tech and wanted to read and work with pdfs on a 6'' device and wished it to be bigger. All the same, I fell in love with my device despite its shortcomings until its sad demise. With tech, things are cursed, at least for me, and I think it's not so different with tablets. It is sometimes hard to talk about specifics and even harder to understand or imagine things only in theory while not having the device in front of you and having never worked with such a device for a long enough time. Money of course is another constraint. On a final note, I admire people like there are many of on this board who know how to get tech things going in many ways. Thanks to this forum and relatedly to Youtube I also came to learn about the possibility of using E-ink screen as monitor - now one of my mid-term goals. Somebody on this board sold a Dasung device recently, but the offer has ended already. And I am not sure if I could make this work, still many open questions, uncharted waters to me. Plus I am very suspicious of second hand deals, esp. if they are on Ebay. It's sometimes hard to tell what's going on there. But this has nothing to do with the forum participant who sold the dasung recently. Last edited by tommyer; 07-17-2017 at 11:05 PM. Reason: Not 'privilege' but 'ability' |
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07-17-2017, 04:36 PM | #32 |
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"half-baked", is exactly my feel with Onyx Boox devices, i have Sony PRS-T2 and T3, these people know how full baked theirs devices before sell them to us.
Onyx Boox make hardware well "baked" , helas not their software! |
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07-17-2017, 04:44 PM | #33 | |
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So, they are generally quite polished, and when they fail you cannot fix them. FAIL. |
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07-17-2017, 07:05 PM | #34 | |
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I mean it's nice that it is kind of a open system and improvement comes not only by adding apps (if the most important ones did work...) but also by improving or adding functions of the default apps through firmware updates ( not only OS upgrade --> Android). I do not even know if the manufacturers of tablets do this kind of firmware updating, i.e. beyond Android upgrade. |
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07-18-2017, 07:57 PM | #35 |
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You used the 9.7 previously, right? I'm still on that model but have been curious about the new one. What are the significant difference for you? Asking because we both use them mainly for academic work.
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07-19-2017, 06:33 AM | #36 |
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If you have an iPad Pro 9.7", there's not a lot in it, but I had a 9.7" iPad Air 2, and the differences between that and the newer iPad Pro are considerable: much faster CPU, better screen, better audio, better camera, and of course compatibility with things like the Apple Pencil. The extra 0.8" screen size may not sound like much, but it does make a significant difference when it comes to reading PDFs.
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07-19-2017, 07:17 AM | #37 | |
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when i select a word in reading action, j hope to find the right dictionnary, the right slection (software has to lemmatization, as "j'ai eu '', the slection is eu "verbe avoir , that's PRS detect it very well as "verbe avoir", not on any onyx boox device just say "there is no data", this is just an example amid thousands of "half baked software"!! I agree that Sony has a strange commercial policy! |
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07-19-2017, 11:50 AM | #38 | |
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Already knowing that something may (will most probably) need to be fixed, I require the flexibility to be there. The device must potentially do what *I* intend, rigorously. Since you will meet "half baked software", the chief workaround is to be able to install other software - using consolidated environments, recreating those you are proficient with, testing new ones etc. "Appliances" (toasters etc.) perform maybe complex processes but with simple and specialized outcomes. Following that, they can be relatively closed. Multi-purpose devices cannot be appliances. These devices are meant to be multi-purpose devices. Multi-purpose devices in general follow the traditional scheme of having an OS that accepts installing software. Which gives you choice. Last edited by mdp; 07-19-2017 at 11:53 AM. |
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There are generally compromises that result from flexibility, however. For example, eInk devices running Android tend to have a significantly shorter battery life than a dedicated eInk book reader, because the reader can "sleep" between page turns, which the Android device can't do.
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It seems that Android is the only choice at the moment... Ubuntu Touch: «The project was started in 2011, but on 5 April 2017 Mark Shuttleworth announced that the project would terminate due to lack of market interest.[6][7] The project was then picked up by the UBports» (Wikipedia) Firefox OS: «in September 2016 [Mozilla] announced the end of development» (Wikipedia) The only alternative - which realistically must include software availability - would be to port a desktop Linux. I have never collected information on why and where exactly this would fail. |
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I understood the market is alredy full of them And very apparently, some of us want us with EPD |
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07-21-2017, 07:06 AM | #44 | |
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Plus Android's biggest "weakness" here (battery life/sleep mode) is also its biggest "strength". You can run any number of 3rd party apps. How efficient those apps are though vary a lot from developer to developer. Some also call Bluetooth or WiFi modules constantly for "cloud" features which kill battery quickly. "Airplane Mode" doesn't seem to be implemented on ereaders (at least under ICS). |
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