07-27-2014, 05:02 PM | #16 |
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07-27-2014, 05:35 PM | #17 | ||
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“It is only a theory sir. Maybe one of my crazier ones I admit," said Frank. In the US, a comma replaces a period at the end of a quote if it's followed by a "said someone" clause. And the comma most definitely comes before the close quote. OTOH, if the sentence ended with a question mark or exclamation point, it would not be replaced by a comma: "It is only a theory sir. Maybe it's one of my crazier ones?" asked Frank. or: "It is only a theory sir. One of my crazier ones!" said Frank. with a small "s" for said and yes, there should be a comma after theory, also. |
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But this is not (commonly) done in British English.
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07-27-2014, 05:54 PM | #19 |
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07-27-2014, 07:49 PM | #21 |
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Well .... I've just spent four hours correcting, and am all done
On the positive ... I now have this quote punctuation drilled into my head forever. I found a lot of unclosed quotes and other little bits. On the negative ... I am knackered. No more writing today 196 words written |
07-27-2014, 08:17 PM | #22 |
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Congratulations. I think you'll find it was worth it, knackered and all.-)
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07-27-2014, 11:11 PM | #23 | ||
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The issue of punctuation inside or outside quotes is also one that varies with formal vs informal. Yes, the formal British rules say the comma should go outside unless it is part of what is quoted, but in novels this doesn't happen for dialogue (a distinction I've yet to see made in style guides, but maybe I've been reading the wrong ones): Quote:
This style appears in both British and American texts. The comma in the above is not part of the quoted speech (if anything it should be a period), but that's not what happens in published novels. |
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07-28-2014, 12:16 AM | #24 |
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I'm more likely to be thrown by inconsistent style (or spelling) than the choice of one over the other.
But, it does have to be a recognized style. I don't use Scrivener myself, but would it have been possible to use a search string to help with your editing? Or, did it take that long even with automated searching? |
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I'm not sure why double quotes suggest English rather than US publishing. I just fossicked in my paperback shelves, and a spot check shows that my UK printed and published books are mostly single quotes, (but by no means all) while the USA ones are all double quotes. Admittedly my US sample is smallish.
eg: my Terry Pratchett UK editions are all single quote. On the other hand, "I. Asimov", Bantam US paperback, has double quotes. A Fontana (UK) Agatha Christie has single quotes, a Dell US Agatha Christie has double quotes, a UK Grafton (Panther etc) Georgette Heyer has double quotes. I think it's a question of house style more than country. |
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Single quotes certainly used to be used universally in British books, but I've noticed in recent years that more and more now use double quotes.
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It does seem that replacing the full stop by a comma is what is often (always?) done. |
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07-28-2014, 05:25 AM | #28 |
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Indeed I think that is the standard. I was completely thrown by your first post in this thread - you had a link to a reputable source, but I just thought I had never seen it done the way you proposed.
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So I'm wrong in theory and practice on this point. Apologies. |
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I personally chose double quotes for dialogue because my own reading experience has been that single-quotes are occasionally confusing when possessive apostrophes are used within a sentence - especially in paragraphs where speech is interspersed with other narrative. (It can depend on the font and actual character used for apostrophes.) This was something I spent a lot of time on before publishing my first book (one of the many forms of procrastination I found ). Happily, I have a very diverse collection of books here. I'd read most of the books but I hadn't remembered how they used punctuation, I had to go through and check them. Most of the older ones are UK or Australian published, but I have enough American ones that I was able to test some of the unsubstantiated claims I'd read in Internet articles on these subjects. It seems that theory and practice can vary quite widely. |
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