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Old 02-13-2020, 01:22 PM   #46
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@Jellby - curious: in Spanish would you use an em-dash (u2014) '—' or a quotation dash (horizontal bar) (u2015) '―'. In some fonts a quote dash a tad shorter and heavier than an em dash , e.g. TNR
I don't recall ever seeing two different em-dash-like characters in a Spanish book, it's always a single type of dash for dialogue or other uses, and there's no en-dash either, only hyphen, and minus sign (if there's any math). I can't say for sure which Unicode character they use in (printed) books, but I'd use em-dash because of better support and probably better in-text look (as in the particular case of TNR). There are, however, some issues, like lines breaking before/after an en-dash, which should not be allowed in Spanish (except if there is a space) and that the quotation dash should fix.
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I don't recall ever seeing two different em-dash-like characters in a Spanish book, it's always a single type of dash for dialogue or other uses [...] I can't say for sure which Unicode character they use in (printed) books, but I'd use em-dash because of better support and probably better in-text look (as in the particular case of TNR).
While I was researching that "quotation dash" in the previous topic, I went digging through the actual documentation:

"The Unicode Standard, Version 12" (PDF) states this:

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6.2. General Punctuation > Dashes and Hyphens

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U+2014 em dash is used to make a break—like this—in the flow of a sentence. (Some typographers prefer to use U+2013 en dash set off with spaces – like this – to make the same kind of break.) Like many other conventions for punctuation characters, such usage may depend on language. This kind of dash is commonly represented with a typewriter as a double hyphen. In older mathematical typography, U+2014 em dash may also used to indicate a binary minus sign. U+2015 horizontal bar is used to introduce quoted text in some typographic styles.
But I've never seen one in the wild (although I don't read languages that use that character).

I'm betting it's like the narrow no-break space... not well supported, and hard to type/input... so it gets replaced with a "close enough" character for ease-of-use.

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Old 02-13-2020, 07:36 PM   #48
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Thanks Jellby, curiosity satisfied - cat not dead

I use non-breaking hyphens in things like phone, card and part numbers. If I read a number across two lines I immediately forget it, it's like I lose the rhythm or something.

Transtool's Insert Symbol tool is invaluable for inserting special characters. I have it configured so that Ctrl+Win+S pops a grid of the chars that I want. The best thing about it is that it's available in all applications - from Word to Notepad. It also has a Copy Unformatted Text feature that works in everything.

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