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Ouch. Some unfortunate losses. I'm sure bookstores are bleeding money right now
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Yeah, the news about the graphic novel buyer bubbled up in my news feed a few days ago.
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Daunt firing all new employees over the lockdowns, delaying publisher payments, firing the book buyers, and closing shop in NYC over money all suggest the pockets he's working with aren't all that deep. So far, they've opened a couple of new format, smaller stores, but nowhere near as many as they've closed. As for growing the chain I don't recall him saying it directly but rather hinting at it, by saying the US is "underbookstored". I took the statement as a negative at the time because it showed a lack of understanding of US population distribution and the modern US retail environment. Even small bookstores need big populations within a reasonable distance and the reason B&M bookstores have been withering is because "reasonable distance" has been shrinking all decade. (For all B&M; hence the mall apocalypse.) The number of population centers maintaining enough foot traffic to support even a small B&M store is lower than the existing store coubt so I seriously doubt there is room for much if any expansion, even with the steady closure of Independent stores. And that was before the lockdowns. My expectation is he will be closing big stores and opening new, smaller ones but the net will be a (quiet) reduction in store count. Last edited by fjtorres; 06-29-2020 at 08:50 PM. |
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Barnes and Noble's brick and mortar strategy of mega-stores everywhere is just not viable and changing it by closing larger stores and replacing them with smaller ones seems reasonable. I just don't know that that has anything to do with their ereaders. Now, look. I'm not expecting a huge cash infusion to the Nook. All I really got out of the original message is that B&N had abandoned any sort of development of the Nook and sales of ebooks. He didn't think that was a good idea and there would be some investment of some sort. Investing in selling in ebooks and then perhaps using that to allow their international stores to start selling ebooks (branded under a different name if Nook is so tarnished internationally) doesn't seem like the worst idea in the world. Especially since B&N already has all the basics in place. They aren't starting from the ground floor. |
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If forced to triage operatings, what goes first? Nook, bookstores as a whole, or B&N.com? Nooks survives, oddly enough, on it's small size and minimal commitment; it costs very little to keep around. But that also limits how much money they can throw at it. Daunt has a to-do list of projects and, unless he's lying, revamping the stores and maintaining free cash flow is tops. Cash flow pays reht and employees. Profitability can come later; he needs to maintain total sales volume because, after all, pbook prices are tied to volume. His talk of growing the nujber of stores is him telling the publishers that the new stores will carry less books each but he'll make it up to them with less returns and (maybe) more stores. Nook costs don't depend on volune, thanks to agency; it can be backburned until job one is under control. Which it isn't. |
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Depending on the definition of rare and biggest. I was under the impression that there were a lot of bookstores in big, medium and even smaller (as well as biggest) cities. The mega bookstores and Amazon may have reduced this, but they were/are there. For example, doing a Google on bookstores for my state (CT) I get a 180 hits, many (more than a few, less than a lot) of which are not in the biggest. |
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But we are talking about B&N, so: How many of those are full, new release and backlist commercial book stores? How many are newstands and airport shops? How many are rare book or used paperback shops? How many are college stores? How many are religious stores? How many are art supply stores or gift shops? If you're going by the ABA listings, they include all of the above. As I recently saw somebody point out on the same topic: how many of those are likely to carry Harry Potter? Patterson? Tolkien? Speaking of the ABA: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amer...rs_Association Quote:
Mainstream bookstores are maybe half the claimed number. For contrast, there are 10,000 different sales tax jurisdictions which are a good enough proxy for number of total population centers/communities, no? https://taxfoundation.org/state-sale...pproach-10000/ Or, you could go with the number of metropolitan areas of over 50,000 population. That is 500. Those smaller cities might be lucky to have one real bookstore. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...es_urban_areas Either way, considering how bookstores are concentrated in big metro areas, Daunt is correct, the US is "underbookstored". As he sees it. But that is because people are spread out all over: the US ranks 177th in population density at 100 people per square mile versus the UK he is familiar with, at 51, and 726. That is because 85% of the population in the top metro areas (>1M) resides in the suburbs and exurbs, not the city centers. And then there's the other 450 metro areas and the smaller towns and cities. So yes, if you have in the bigger coastal cities you probably have no shortage of B&M bookstores. Chicago, too. But for most of "flyover country" full service bookstores are not abundant and *never* have been. There just aren't enough readers within reasonable driving time. That is why Amazon book sales grew so big so fast. And, as noted above in the Wikipedia ABA listing, the number is steadily going down. B&M bookstores are not, as a whole, a particularly profitable business. Among the non-chain stores, breaking even is a triumph. Last edited by fjtorres; 06-30-2020 at 11:10 AM. |
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When I think bookstore, for this discussion, I think a store who's primary business is selling new books. From the Google's I did, I don't think there were any (or few) outliers (art supply, news stands, airports). There were some used book stores. There were some college. If you are only talking B&N than fine. But if you are talking historically, IMO, for my definition of bookstores, they are not just in/were in the biggest cities. I seem to recall driving through towns in the 70s and 80s, and many smaller cities had bookstores; they weren't the size of the modern B&N, but they were not boutiques and they sold new books, and you could order what they didn't carry. My town had a bookstore, and it wasn't even in the top 100 for population in our state. In my state, 2 B&N stores are located in cities that don't even make the top 10 for population in my state (one is the 46th). |
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"Deep pockets" doesn't mean they aren't going to make changes. Moving to smaller stores was brought up as soon as the sale was announced. I thought the Nook might be on the way out, but recent announcements from the new CEO seem to counter that notion.
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Good to see they're targeting some of the corporate office folks, not that I wish those folks ill, but there's bound to be some bloat in those offices that is negatively impacting BNs bottom line. Maybe Daunt will issue in an era where they don't just keep trimming from the store level staff and then wondering why fewer people can't keep doing the same job as it took more people to do. |
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Just a few hundred stores whose primary business was, as you say, selling new books. Seriously. https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/...americans-read Quote:
Bookstores were unicorns until paperbacks came about in the late 30's but then the war stepped in and it wasn't until the economic boom of the 50's and 60's and the appearance of paperback originals in the late 50's that reading for entertainment hit the mainstream, promoting the creation of the mall chains of the 60's through 80's. Then the 90's hit, the publishers consolidated, mall chains were boughtbout and closed, and the big box stores took over. In less than a decade they went from 10,000 bookstores to around 5000. The heydey of "a bookstore in every regional mall" was the 80's. It lasted maybe a decade and a half. The historical norm was really "very few stores, concentrated in the big cities". Then Amazon stepped in, building its empire off sales to the very places *without* bookstores, building enough volume to qualify for the top publisher discounts. Half a decade later, Borders was gone. A half decade after that saw entire regional chains follow it and B&N begin a downward spiral. It isn't ending. Non-chainstores were steadily closing a dozen a year or so ago and now the lockdowns froze sales but not costs. Try this: https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...s-disappearing Quote:
San Francisco, LA, Chicago, St Louis, California in general have all seen bookstores squeezed out over the last year or so. It's typically high rents, declining traffic, online comoetition and (shhhh!) minimum wage hikes. As the Guardian says, low margins can't support open market costs. And those are issues for *all* booksellers, everywhere. Not just NYC. Last edited by fjtorres; 06-30-2020 at 04:25 PM. |
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